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[–] eaterofclowns@lemmy.world 43 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

This is a good joke but it's worth pointing out that while Boston has always had the universities, it was a very different kind of city 30 years ago. The tech boom completely changed the character of it from a roughneck working class city to a wealthy one.

If you want to see what Boston was like up until about 2000 or so, The Friends of Eddie Coyle did a great job of it. Technically it takes place in the south Shore but since we're calling Cambridge Boston here we can let that one slide as well.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Also, the most famous of those universities (MIT and Harvard) are in Cambridge.

Someone from outside Boston might look at the entire metropolitan area and call it "Boston", but one of the key elements of the movie is that Will and Chuckie are locals who are living their entire lives in a small neighbourhood in South Boston.

For a local, there are huge differences between Cambridge, Somerville, South Boston, the North End, Beacon Hill, Charlestown, East Boston, etc.

In any case, in the movie he never says "you've gotta get out of this town and make something of yourself". What he does say is that the best 10 seconds of his day is when he walks up to Will's door and hopes that he'll have left without saying goodbye. That does suggest that to fulfill his potential he'll have to move somewhere else, at least for a while. But, the way the lines are delivered, it's not that he has to leave the Greater Boston Area, but that he can't just get stuck in a rut, living in the same place, doing the same thing, never taking a chance to improve his life.

Sure, theoretically Will could live in the same house for the rest of his life, while also making the most of his talent by working at Harvard or something and just commuting from South Boston. But, the other context for that scene is the girlfriend.

Chuckie asks Will about his girlfriend, and Will says she's moving to California to go to med school. That's what kicks the whole scene off. The audience knows that Skylar invited Will to come with her, and not only did he turn her down, he basically had a panic attack at the idea of leaving his life in South Boston. Chuckie knows Will well enough to know that it wasn't just a casual fling, and he's happy to end it because she left town. At the end of the movie, Will's friends give him a car for his birthday, and he uses the car to drive to California to be with Skylar.

Now, maybe in 10 years he'll move back to the greater Boston area, get a job at MIT or Harvard, buy a house next door to Chuckie and commute to his job from his old neighbourhood. Maybe his and Skylar's kids will play little league games together, and the two will hang out to watch the Patriots (and they'll be in for a hell of an era for that team). But, even then, he'll have done what Chuckie wanted and not waste his talent.

The scene has nothing to do with leaving the Boston area to get a good intellectual job, and everything to do with not getting stuck in a rut, being scared to take a chance and use your talent.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago) (1 children)

a small neighbourhood in South Boston.

Aside from the underlying do something with your talent, I took the literal meaning to be getting out of southie. The Boston-Cambridge metropolitan area has many top schools and tech oriented companies that would be excellent opportunities ….. but none are in southie. Southie has a very different stereotype than say Cambridge, or the financial district, or many tech areas

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 minute ago

It has been a while since I watched the movie. But, consider the scene at the beginning where Will shows off his intelligence in a bar. I think the movie set that up as Will and his friends wanting to take a "field trip" to a non-Southie bar. It felt like they were far from the place where they belonged, even though it might have only been a 15 minute drive.

In any case, it isn't just about leaving Southie. Like I said, at no point does Chuckie say "you've gotta get out of this town". He just hopes that one day when he goes to knock on Will's door, Will isn't there. And, it isn't because he wants Will to move to "a different town", or something. It's that he wants Will to not get stuck in a rut, never taking a chance on life, and not using his talents.

Will answering his door whenever Chuckie knocks doesn't just mean he's still living in Southie. It also means that he is probably still working the same job, still hanging out with the same people, still in the same rut.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 minutes ago

I miss Boston in the 90's

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 44 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

That, and he's not saying "Will, you need to go do good math." He's saying that if he's still here in 20(?) years, he'll fucking kill him. And that's because he recognizes Will, thanks to his extreme intellect (which we see isn't nearly limited to math), can go wherever he wants and do basically whatever he wants. He recognizes that unlike himself, Will chooses to stay there because he's living in fear of the unknown – that people will hurt him, something he doesn't have to worry about with his three Southie friends.

He's talking about emotional growth and self-actualization for Will, recognizing that staying stuck in the place where he grew up and was brutally abused is keeping him trapped, because that's where he feels "safe".

I know this is a joke, but it's completely misrepresenting the scene to get there, and it doesn't even seem like obviously ironic misrepresentation.


Edit: IIRC, he doesn't even say that he needs to leave Boston, just that Will still hanging around with them would be the problem.

[–] Ertain@feddit.online 3 points 58 minutes ago

Thanks for explaining.