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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Also, the most famous of those universities (MIT and Harvard) are in Cambridge.

Someone from outside Boston might look at the entire metropolitan area and call it "Boston", but one of the key elements of the movie is that Will and Chuckie are locals who are living their entire lives in a small neighbourhood in South Boston.

For a local, there are huge differences between Cambridge, Somerville, South Boston, the North End, Beacon Hill, Charlestown, East Boston, etc.

In any case, in the movie he never says "you've gotta get out of this town and make something of yourself". What he does say is that the best 10 seconds of his day is when he walks up to Will's door and hopes that he'll have left without saying goodbye. That does suggest that to fulfill his potential he'll have to move somewhere else, at least for a while. But, the way the lines are delivered, it's not that he has to leave the Greater Boston Area, but that he can't just get stuck in a rut, living in the same place, doing the same thing, never taking a chance to improve his life.

Sure, theoretically Will could live in the same house for the rest of his life, while also making the most of his talent by working at Harvard or something and just commuting from South Boston. But, the other context for that scene is the girlfriend.

Chuckie asks Will about his girlfriend, and Will says she's moving to California to go to med school. That's what kicks the whole scene off. The audience knows that Skylar invited Will to come with her, and not only did he turn her down, he basically had a panic attack at the idea of leaving his life in South Boston. Chuckie knows Will well enough to know that it wasn't just a casual fling, and he's happy to end it because she left town. At the end of the movie, Will's friends give him a car for his birthday, and he uses the car to drive to California to be with Skylar.

Now, maybe in 10 years he'll move back to the greater Boston area, get a job at MIT or Harvard, buy a house next door to Chuckie and commute to his job from his old neighbourhood. Maybe his and Skylar's kids will play little league games together, and the two will hang out to watch the Patriots (and they'll be in for a hell of an era for that team). But, even then, he'll have done what Chuckie wanted and not waste his talent.

The scene has nothing to do with leaving the Boston area to get a good intellectual job, and everything to do with not getting stuck in a rut, being scared to take a chance and use your talent.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

a small neighbourhood in South Boston.

Aside from the underlying do something with your talent, I took the literal meaning to be getting out of southie. The Boston-Cambridge metropolitan area has many top schools and tech oriented companies that would be excellent opportunities ….. but none are in southie. Southie has a very different stereotype than say Cambridge, or the financial district, or many tech areas

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 2 points 49 minutes ago

Southie has had a bit of a glow up and is maybe even a hip gayboorhood in some parts. But in the 1970’s they threw bricks at school buses because they didn’t want black children at their schools.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

It has been a while since I watched the movie. But, consider the scene at the beginning where Will shows off his intelligence in a bar. I think the movie set that up as Will and his friends wanting to take a "field trip" to a non-Southie bar. It felt like they were far from the place where they belonged, even though it might have only been a 15 minute drive.

In any case, it isn't just about leaving Southie. Like I said, at no point does Chuckie say "you've gotta get out of this town". He just hopes that one day when he goes to knock on Will's door, Will isn't there. And, it isn't because he wants Will to move to "a different town", or something. It's that he wants Will to not get stuck in a rut, never taking a chance on life, and not using his talents.

Will answering his door whenever Chuckie knocks doesn't just mean he's still living in Southie. It also means that he is probably still working the same job, still hanging out with the same people, still in the same rut.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago

For sure, and I’ve said that about the town I grew up in as well. It was an ibm town when I was a kid, so very tech oriented. But it was a smallish town in the middle of nowhere and no other tech company replaced ibm when they left.

I came back for my 20 year reunion and just thought everything was grey, run down, stuck in time. It horrified me how many people I knew had just stayed. One of my brothers friends was driving the same Camaro. The same guy with a mullet was selling weed. My best friend from that part of my life admitted he had never travelled more than 50 miles. His gig as a DJ at the community college had been cool at the time but …… doing exactly the same thing? It had been 20 years and I got caught up in no time because nothing changed