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If you graduated before they implemented this or aren’t American, the system they started to use to teach kids how to read is called three cuing. They teach kids to identify unknown words by guessing based on clues in pictures with the sentences, what word would ‘make sense’, and whether the answer they came up with looks right based on the first letter.

As you may have noticed, none of that is reading a word. These are strategies that borderline illiterate people will use to try to understand words, and for decades it’s been the method used by many schools across the country.

So that person you’re arguing with online who keeps going off on bizarre rants barely related to anything you said might not be a troll, they might just be functionally illiterate due to having never been taught to read. Yaaay!

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[–] jagermo@feddit.org 7 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

Wait, this is a real thing? I was handing in a marketing copy and one of my us colleagues mentioned that I was using fairly complicated language that most Americans won't understand. Is that the reason? I thought I had used normal level English that everyone who has learned it as a second language would understand. It never occurred to me that native speakers would have issues? Not in a business context at least?

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

As someone born and raised in the USA, like anything else in our country it's a gradient and not black and white. There are plenty of people who speak eloquently and can engage with an expansive vocabulary.

There also are, I'd wager almost certainly more, people who are borderline functionally illiterate for whom reading is a chore and who actively try to avoid it.

Beyond that, the vast majority of folks can read and write but have a limited lexicon and have not attempted (and probably won't) to grow their knowledge of English words. Most of us just get by and go along.

I don't know why I still am constantly surprised by just how stupid my compatriots are. Maybe I just want to believe in a better world. The sad reality is Americans, as a whole, are pretty goddamn dumb and ignorant and like it that way.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How it was implemented is going to vary by state and even by school, but this system was used for years in every state. Anyone in their mid 30s and older doesn’t have that excuse, but kids being taught to read in the early 2000s and on were increasingly taught with three cueing alone and no sounding out words, because the theory was basically they just figure it out themselves.

A lot of them did not figure it out themselves.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

kids being taught to read in the early 2000s and on were increasingly taught with three cueing alone

Um. I think you might have misread the wiki article, three-cueing stopped being taught exclusively in 2000. (Sorry, really not trying to be shitty here)

By the 1990s and early 2000s, research began to conclude that phonics was the necessary method of teaching reading to children, with an American congressional panel in 2000 concluding that the essential components of reading instruction were "vocabulary, comprehension and phonics". Programs began to re-incorporate phonics around this time, although three cueing remained a part of curriculums in the approaches of balanced literacy and whole language.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The research has been there for decades, but it hasn’t been reflected in the way reading was actually taught for a lot of students. Some states are just now introducing laws to make sure students aren’t being taught exclusively three cueing.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Do you have a source on the prevalence you are claiming? Sincerely asking, I work in education and this is very much contrary to what I have seen.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Absolutely, check out the American Public Media (they’re the second largest public radio in the US after NPR) investigative reporting in Sold a Story: https://features.apmreports.org/sold-a-story/season-1/ They have links for supporting reporting under some of the episodes: https://www.apmreports.org/story/2022/11/10/heinemann-sales-by-school-district

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I am sorry I cannot watch the vid at the moment, but what a good article. The vid may talk about the current prevalence of teaching queuing (I think I'm so funny), I didn't see it come up beyond incidental mention in the article nor did it mention that the rate of teaching MSV has increased, but I overall agree with everything they're/you're saying there:

But Adams soon figured out the disconnect. Teachers understood these cues not just as the way readers construct meaning from text, but as the way readers actually identify the words on the page. And they thought that teaching kids to decode or sound out words was not necessary.

Teaching cueing and phonics doesn't work, Sajous-Brooks said. "One negates the other."

Yes absolutely, MSV is not a replacement for phonics.

To be clear, there's nothing wrong with pictures. They're great to look at and talk about, and they can help a child comprehend the meaning of a story. Context — including a picture if there is one — helps us understand what we're reading all the time. But if a child is being taught to use context to identify words, she's being taught to read like a poor reader.

Again, absolutely correct. The beneficial parts of MSV are in learning to derive meaning and infer context from non-textual cues, not the whole dowsing-for-phonics thing.

I'm getting the distinct impression this is an overloaded term and that we're agreeing about phonics vs. MSV, I suspect it has (ironically) a fairly contextually-dependent meaning.

(edit: There's a whole side-topic about the hell that is "whole language")

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, if you are writing for the general public you need to keep it simple. A shocking number of people are barely literate, something like 1 in 5 adults in the US are illiterate.

[–] X@piefed.world 7 points 1 hour ago

It’s worse. From a search:

According to the 2023 Programme for the International Assessment of Adult Competencies (PIAAC) survey, 28% of U.S. adults scored at or below Level 1 literacy, meaning they struggle with multi-step instructions and complex texts. This represents a 9 percentage point increase in low literacy levels since 2017. Additionally, about 54% of U.S. adults read below a sixth-grade level, and approximately 21% are classified as functionally illiterate.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Slightly less than 1 in 20 (at least in 2019. Unfortunately the last time this came up I couldn't find the PIAAC evaluations fully broken out more recently than that, and I have had no more luck this time)

In 2019, the National Center for Educational Statistics reported that 4.1% of US adults had literacy abilities below level 1, defined as "unable to successfully determine the meaning of sentences, read relatively short texts to locate a single piece of information, or complete simple forms", and could be classified as functionally illiterate.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Without an example of the text in question it's a pretty unanswerable stereotype, but it's possible. The topic of US literacy is an extremely complex one, but overall it had been trending up (until the kids were kneecapped by COVID) and US advanced literacy L3+ among non-college grads tends to be heavily siloed towards jargon shaped by the prevailing regional industry with little mixing between areas. It's a fascinating topic, really.

Anyways: minor criticism for OP as they're kinda basing their complaint on the idea that MSV is exclusively what is taught in the US; this hasn't been the case for decades. While they're absolutely right that MSV as an exclusive method for learning to read is a horrible approach, it's a very useful skill for inferring meaning from context, especially when combined with a foundation built on the standard vocab+definition+phonics framework.