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Can someone explain to me how my state got everything else right for the most part but went stupid for this one?

Literally, let's inspect little girls privates, but not boys, because 10 trans students exist and MIGHT want to play sports with their friends? Jesus.

It was also kind of disgusting that literally all our state initiatives were funded by a 1%-er, Brian Heywood and his Let's Go Washingtion PAC.

Edit: couple transphobes showing their colors here. Not only do they have a bad understanding of how hormones affect the body, degrading muscle mass and bone density in trans women for example, it also is just a dog whistle and avoids the real issue.

Segregating trans folk from sports is just another way to demoralize and dehumanize a small subset of the population. "If you're not trans, you can play sports with your friends. You're not really a girl/boy anyway." It's disgusting. Do we need trans drinking fountains too? It's attempting to instill these thoughts into children. In children's sports. Which are just kids playing together and enjoying their lives. It SHOULD NOT MATTER if a boy plays soccer with a girl or a girl plays football with a boy. Let kids be fucking kids. Ask kids after they play with each other if one of them should be excluded. The kids understand it better than the adults pushing narratives who often don't even have children. The kids just want to play together and do a better job of being accepting in group play than these conservative, lonely incels.

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[–] zimy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I think a lot of the left is being willfully ignorant of other people's viewpoints and I find it frustrating.

  1. The vast majority of people voting for this did not know all the content of the bill, "keep boys out of girls sports" is probably the most they heard about it, not the genital checking.
  2. Plenty of centrists and even right-leaning people are OK with adults doing what they want, but are still very protective of children. Limiting children from hormones is not considered a violation of trans rights for most people; rights have always been segmented by adulthood, the same way a child does not have the right to vote or join the military or get a tattoo. I think a large part of the issue is that the left (or any political ideology) is not really cohesive and is several ontologies in a trench coat; the popular rhetoric (woke version 1 as AOC calls it) from the left has been that gender is a social construct and is divorced from biological sex, if that's the case then why do trans children need hormones to be their preferred gender? As a fellow leftist I understand everyone experiences gender and it's relationship to society differently (euphoria vs dysphoria, etc.), but there has been a major nuance gap in public discourse which leaves many Americans feel like the left has pulled a bait and switch on them.
  3. Society has spent decades promoting girl's and women's sports and now feel like that's being trampled upon by allowing biological males (who have a distinct physical advantage) dominating their space. It'd be like getting rid of weight classifications in power lifting, anyone under 6 feet would never win again and short people would be ousted out of another sport.
[–] ViaGetty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

A 'fellow leftist' biological males-ing? You're a hoot

[–] zimy@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Do you deny sexual dimorphic trends within our species? Are there populations of humans where females have more bone density, skeletal structural differences muscle mass, and height than males I haven't heard about? Would you want all sports desegregated? If males aren't distinctly different from females why even bother taking hormones to change body morphology at all?

[–] ViaGetty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

If you can figure out how to ask questions like that, which seem important to you, without exhibiting transmisia then there might be hope for you yet

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The voter guide was pretty specific about the invasive checks. Everyone gets the guide.

[–] zimy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I live in Seattle I'm well aware of the voter guide, however that does not mean the average voter reads it.

[–] tachikoma@lemmy.today 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I think it's worth noting that a human's genetics chnage based on their environment.

Saying that males have a distinct advantage is entirely too reductive for such a complex topic as human genetics and growth.

[–] zimy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Do you have any epigenetic phenomena that specifically applies to sports abilities in the average human? I agree individual cases may vary but it's hard to deny the vast majority of men out perform the vast majority of women in almost every aspect.

https://runninglevel.com/running-times/5k-times https://strengthorigins.com/strength-standards/powerlifting/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcprxDdAdeE

[–] canttakeitwithyou@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Dominating girls sports? Of course that is nonsense. Meh.

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately I can't disagree. I do wish people would look something up rather than assume as the initiative did at least say that "it would require verification of a student's biological sex." I guess people didn't ask the obvious next question of "how?"

Proper education and understanding is one of the biggest issues in society. We're always moving too fast as society intends, so that we're too tired to think about things, we've got bills to pay, and social media primes us to make and stand behind snap judgements.

We really didn't circulate this ad enough.

https://youtu.be/Gt_IZoM9KuQ

Thankfully it should get immediately challenged at the state level based on discrimination since it only applies to girls.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately I can't disagree. I do wish people would look something up rather than assume

You can't say that, in agreement with someone who said "by allowing biological males (who have a distinct physical advantage)". If someone had done the former, they'd understand the latter is not a blanket statement you can throw around