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the ACA was a republican created stop gap to hold up a failing system. the democrats then agreed to do it and not HFA because they are beholden to the same masters, and that’s when the republicans started to call it obama care, and stripped out nearly all consumer protections, and put a timer on the rest.
the dems were happy to capitulate to the right at each step.
But don't forget that Obama and the rest of the Democrats and few progressives at the time did try to get a public option in with the ACA but was cockblocked by neo-liberal Joe Liberman.
i suppose the argument here is that there was a lone traitor as to the reason that the dems capitulated to the republicans like always. but that i feel is too charitable a take when we know they count their votes and choose the person to take the fall. shummer and jefferies follow the same tendencies, they just don’t like to be openly blamed for orchestrating their failures. at this point it’s irresponsible to give them the benefit of the doubt.
The argument is simply to remind people that neo-liberals suck. Yeah, there were of course others who were also bitching but they fell in line reluctantly because Obama. Liberman was the one who had the audacity to switch to be independent and tank it outright.
No, I have no love for centrist and their bullshit, just pointing out centrists are weaklings that will never stand up to the moment.
Why are you ignoring the basic numbers?
Trump can veto anything the Dems bring up.
How do you plan to get around that.
make him veto it. it’s not like they do any work over there anyway. the sheer amount of fuckery the republicans did without any power either A. ruined all democrat momentum, rendering them more then useless. or B. gave the dems cover to push rightward like they are instructed.
and why would you care? unless you are fighting against progressive movement?
there are a lot of people on here who are claiming to be “center” and always demanded the progressive base to “compromise” with hitler
So, I ask a question in good faith and get called Hitler?
Where did I say anything about compromising?
I asked for a plan and I get nothing.
Plenty of people voted for Obama twice, then voted for Trump three times, and then voted Blue in 2026.
i didn’t say you were like hitler, i said you would compromise with hitler
the kind of person who would vote for obama twice then vote for trump twice, and then vote for blue wave in the mid terms is a voter who is short sighted, and only interested in their own comfort over the lives of everyone else. great that their selfishness coincidentally aligned them selves with progressive ends. but you are not going to get sympathy from me for people who are so selfish. people pretending they have morals after being ate by the leapords is ridiculous