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[–] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There were protests in South Africa against apartheid

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. And for all of this "the exact lesson from apartheid" we're all supposed to have taken to heart about the uselessness of non-violent protest, remind me again because it's been some thirty years since I last heard about it . . . where is apartheid now?

I love when these fifth columnists show up to shit on any individual effort toward change, no matter how tiny, and to shower any "I can" idea with contempt, because it tells me who they are, and confirms that my own infinitesimal contribution, in combination with millions of other like contributions, is anything but useless.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There's a maybe too large part of me that thinks violence may be necessary, but you know what?

I'm kind of a cranky, belligerent jerk sometimes, and I've been wrong about a lot of things. I could be wrong again. I hope so.

And the fact of the matter is that a lot of people who I respect and love disagree with me and demand peaceful protest and are trying much more clever ideas than I've come up with. Inflatable animal costumes? I never considered that one. And damn if it doesn't ruin their photo ops. Bravo!

Good people are having a lot stolen from them. It would be shitty if anyone steals peaceful protest away from them too.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

I figure there is room for peaceful protest, support groups, and defiant Black Panthers. They aren't mutually exclusive towards achieving a positive peace, they just have different methods. They should just agree to support each other in the ways that make sense - Panthers warding off ICE raids and police kettles, supporters feeding, healing, and sheltering, peaceful protesters giving body and voice to the movement.

The change for a better world is an animal, and an animal is made up of many parts. Without them, it would likely die.

[–] Wigners_friend@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they know you are just peaceful you will be ignored. As has already happened in the USA. You don't understand what I said because you were taught a nonsense history of SA.

[–] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

You said you can't protest and that's just wrong