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Since Trump's election, gun groups catering to progressives and people of color report a surge in interest as they look to defend themselves in a country that, to them, feels increasingly unstable.

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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You can use a shotgun loaded only with rock salt even when deadly force is warranted. You can also not use a gun at all in situations that would allow deadly force. Not everybody wants to kill someone.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 points 10 months ago

That's not very american of you. You have to be ready to shoot and kill anyone apparently

[–] Arcka@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

If you go through a defensive carry class you'd almost certainly be discouraged from doing that by the instructor for multiple reasons:

First is that all ammo can be lethal, even blanks. So if you're not willing to kill to protect your own life, that may cause it anyway. On the flip side, a prosecutor will argue that if lethal ammunition wasn't required, then use of a gun wasn't necessary and you've not only broken firearm discharge laws (in place where most people live), but are also guilty of assault with a weapon with intent to kill or maim.

Firing a gun in self-defense is only warranted if nonlethal means are insufficient. If you try using less-lethal ammo and it doesn't stop your attacker, you're killed or seriously injured. If you try using less-lethal ammo and it does stop your attacker, you're still screwed by the legal system (possibly except under some "stand your ground" laws).