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[–] festus@lemmy.ca 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Some of those applicants want to come here to actually study and ideally shouldn't be rejected solely because of their nationality.

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

you're 100% correct and I feel bad for those people but you know the saying "a few bad apples spoil the lot"

India has an ENTIRE industry whose sole purpose is to fake academic records and assist people in faking their student visa applications. That's on the Indian government that STILL hasn't cracked down on it similar to how they don't crack down heavily on online and phone scamming of western nations. So individuals who are seeking a better life outside of India need to first fix what's going on at home. And make no mistake it's not just fake visas and scamming there's also an entire outsourcing industry that they had propped up full of unqualified developers and engineers that western companies once outsourced to.

India, in more ways than one, needs to get their shit together in several ways be it culturally, financially, and politically. When the majority of the west looks at India and instantly thinks "scammers" that's not a good look. that does not build trust. And the hard working honest people of India suffer for it.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And shouldn't it be on us to check if a given document is bullshit? I mean, you could write a fake acceptance letter here too.

The article doesn't even say that's not what's happening, although the headline makes it sound pre-emptive.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Currently it does need more scrutiny though. I have a few coworkers from India, they have tons of stories of how the corruption works there.

Get a traffic ticket, buy the cop a roadside lunch.

Want planning permission slide the civic clerk a bribe. (Apparently that position has a long waiting list, because you will make more in bribes that a doctors salary.)

Injure or kill somebody in a motor accident, offer their family (and police) a lump sum to drop charges.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

That's pretty much anywhere in the third world, FYI. It's just how things work until you have many decades of stability and democracy to unlearn it. Corruption used to be a way of life in the West, too. There were operas about it.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

India has 70 years of democracy, but according to my coworkers there are just too many people (density) to enforce laws. You shut something down, there's another thing tomorrow

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They have had democracy longer than typical, and are a challenge to explain in that sense, but not really stability or prosperity.

Whichever theory you subscribe to, this is an empirical observation. Visit Africa or Latin America or SE Asia and you'll see similar things. (And the first two can be pretty low density, FWIW)

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Till this fraud thing can be sorted out sorry but they are caught in the backlash.