The federal and provincial governments have been underfunding universities for decades. Recently, universities were able to start recruiting foreign students to make up for the shortfall, but it looks like that money tap will be turned down. It doesn't look like there's a plan to make up for it.
At the same time, the feds want to
recruit more than 1,000 top international researchers to Canada, with the budget injecting up to $1.7-billion into a suite of recruitment measures.
That'll be tough if universities see their income crater.
Are we now acting like universities are poor and aren’t gouging the fuck out of everyone?
Wtf are you talking about. Tuitions have been frozen in Ontario for 8 years. Laurentian went broke.
Unaffordable 8 years ago doesn’t mean it’s affordable now. It’s always been a gouge and continues to be so. Higher education is for the upper middle class and wealthy, they use it to look down on others and maintain the status quo, they don’t want poor people there unless a rich person pays
Honestly, I don't think you even know what the word "gouge" means. HINT: IT DOESN'T MEAN "EXPENSIVE"
They're not, really. Their expenses have gone up to match. The days of just teaching with just blackboards are over.
If all expenses are necessary is another question, though. Someone mentioned administration bloat.
I have worked in hospitals and I would imagine it’s a similar situation. The top people make all the money and the nursing and housekeeping staff keep getting shafted and told “there’s no money for you”
Right? Its more like correcting an income that was taken advantage of in the first place.
WTF are you even talking about?
University is only for the middle class and wealthy, the poor don’t get to play
Guy. You've been all over the place with your uninformed criticisms. I don't think you really even understand what it is that has you so upset at universities, but there is something playing out before us.
I’ve worked in hospitals and have seen first hand how much money goes to the top while the rest of us struggled and some of us literally died. If you have no issue with how much money is being spent at the top, that speaks to you and your views.
Im for free education
Great. You've worked for hospitals. But surely you can see, if you take a step back, how it kind of proves my point if that is what is informing your opinion about fucking universities.
You get that universities don't get to decide whether or not education is free, right? You're pissed off at the wrong people, YET AGAIN.
Simping for the rich, that’s what you’re doing. Traitor
Notice how you are unable to actually address anything I say. You're angry for unrelated reasons and you're looking for places to put it, but you're not smart enough to find appropriate places. Talk to someone.
How much do they charge in your province? Tuition is very affordable here in Quebec
The absolute cost of tuition doesn't speak to whether the school is "gouging," which would imply excessive profit-taking with funds moving to private investors -- WHO DON'T EVEN EXIST IN THIS SCENARIO.
No school's tuition covers the actual cost for Canadian citizens. Every tuition is highly subsidized. If anything, we're gouging the schools, because they are not allowed to raise tuitions but their costs are going up while their revenue is dropping.
Ontario is just over $6K for most programs, $9K for engineering and B.Comm coops.
US, many times that.
That tracks, its a bit less here being ~5k for most programs
Unless its more than free that’s not affordable to most
It actually can be for many due to bursaries and very very easy to pay off loans. Few locals graduate with debt.
[citation required]
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3710003601&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.6&pickMembers%5B1%5D=3.1&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2000&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2020&referencePeriods=20000101%2C20200101
The amounts are more than I expected but it doesn't breakdown by if the student is local, national, or international which matters. Figures however are not very high in terms of overall debt burden compared to the US and they are lower than the national figures
I don't know anyone who graduated without debt and I know several people struggling to deal with their student loans, which don't even go away with bankruptcy.
Are you here in Québec?