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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Know who else thinks it’s all about being elected? MAGA.

And in the bigger picture, it’s wrong. Being elected only gets you out on the field. It doesn’t keep you in the game. And it certainly doesn’t win them for you.

What if he ends up being ineffective and a pushover, what would we have learned from his winning then?

How to deceive people?

He needs to walk the walk now. The talk is over. He campaigned well enough to get elected. Hopefully he can create the change he sees for everyone, and inspires others to follow suit.

But you people are going all-in on someone you have no idea whether or not he can follow through- only because he’s a “not democrat”.

And again, how is this better than a “not trump”? And this is ignoring the fact that we all voted for the “not fascist”.

If a third party candidate worth their word in action stepped up to the plate, I’m sure we’d have voted for them. But unfortunately- all that was offered was a bunch of untested no-experience-in-the-field nobodies that have since disappeared into obscurity. Disagree?

What’s Jill Stein been up to lately? Or what about Cornell West?

They flew in at the eleventh hour to promise the earth, sun, and moon- then disappeared without a trace when they lost- just as they did in 2020, and in 2016. This proves they can’t commit to their own bullshit. And yet, too many people held our democracy hostage over these clowns.

Where are they now?!

Was it worth it? Giving them your votes? They abandoned you. And I’ll be willing to bet anything that they aren’t feeling one degree of the hell that Trump has brought down on us.

So, yeah. You’re accused of being idealists because your behavior illustrates it. It’s easy to buy into shit people tell you. Especially if you ever expect them to follow through. This is why it’s so easy to be an idealist. You never have to be accountable if all you do is blame everyone else for not listening to you.

The rest of us have to do the work in holding them accountable, while shouldering the blame when you all don’t get your way.

I’m done discussing this.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's funny because I have the same tired feeling of dragging unimaginative people to a better future. But the good news is if you aren't against us then you are for us. There's room at the table for you.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip -1 points 10 months ago

No thanks. I’d rather sit at the adults table.