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Sounds like no one invited you anywhere for Thanksgiving.
Funny how some people are always ready to have other folks suffer for a good cause.
Lol yeah you got me.
I have to believe that you are purposely misconstruing my comment. I don't want any of this to happen. I have, however, been paying close attention to politics for over two decades now, and I know what it takes for even a small % of these people to ever consider changing their minds about politics.
These people are pathologically stubborn in the face of new evidence. They will do the exact opposite of what a scientist says they should do simply because they made them feel stupid for suggesting they might know better.
They also believe empathy is evil, and therefore a huge chunk of them are literally incapable of grasping something until it affects them directly. We've seen it happen over and over and over again.
Right, but the issue here is that nobody agrees on who is at fault. Nobody is given reason to change their minds, because it's "the other side" causing it, regardless of which side they're on. It's a problem that is definitely affecting real people, but "we're not the ones causing it" is an easy way to ignore responsibility.
That's not to say the shutdown should end, or that it isn't obvious that the administration isn't willing to come to the table, but I don't think I agree with your above point that there's anything undeniable to be found.