This is the economic centrism we voted for. We all knew Carney was going to do this under the guise of national economic protections against the shifting global alliances as of late. That's what we wanted. Right?

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure that people voted for Carney as much as they were backed into a corner and forced to vote for him as a vote against Poilievre.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

There's still the NDP.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Until we can get rid of fptp there isn't much hope

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

Actually, there kind of isn't? They lost their party status in the last election because Liberals don't understand how strategic voting works, and the NDP lost too many seats to Conservatives in the process.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If the threat of losing the election was to the Liberals then yes. But until we ditch fptp we're stuck with a two party system pretending to be a multi-party system.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Yep, and normally I'd say you gotta just be the change and vote for a losing party to build support.

But with what's happening in the abyss that is the States right now, taking a step backward in order to move forward feels much more dangerous than ever before.

We need electoral reform, but asking for it, and being promised it, sure hasn't been working.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except the previous two elections had the NDP holding the balance of power?

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right??

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not to mention that by the numbers we are still in that position. It's just the Liberals chose a party leader who appears to have a specific hostility towards the NDP and would rather court the CPC for votes.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you were backed into a corner and forced to vote for someone in the recent election, CBC news would like to hear from you.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which alternative should I have chosen: Voting for who I want and letting Cons win, or not voting at all and letting Cons win.

[–] kbal@fedia.io -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well it's up to you, but personally I tend to vote for the local candidate I'd prefer to win.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I wish I could do that, but it's not worth the risk when my local guy wins and we lose massively at a federal level, so local guy can't really do much of anything at all.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

Yes definitely why Canada voted for him /s

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Funny. During the election when I pointed out Carney was a conservative I was told to read his marketing material, sorry I mean book, Values which practically painted him as a social democrat.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Told you so. (To this community)

But y'all told me to shut up. That Carney was going to save us.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

He probably did. What he’s saving us for now… that’s another thing.