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[–] tal@lemmy.today 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I read an article yesterday that Samsung's memory division wasn't even willing to let Samsung's own cell phone division lock in any long-term memory buying agreement with them, which the cell phone division hsd been trying to do. Too much money in selling HBM memory for parallel compute to datacenters.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/ai-frenzy-is-driving-new-global-supply-chain-crisis-2025-12-03/

Some 6,000 miles away in California, Paul Coronado said monthly sales at his company, Caramon, which sells recycled low-end memory chips pulled from decommissioned data-center servers, have surged since September. Almost all its products are now bought by Hong Kong-based intermediaries who resell them to Chinese clients, he said.

"We were doing about $500,000 a month," he said. "Now it's $800,000 to $900,000."

I threw away a bunch of large-capacity DDR4 DIMMs last year, figured that they'd be useless in the future. Kind of wish I hadn't, now. Reusing old DIMMs is probably the only source of supply that can be ramped up in the near term.

In October, SK Hynix said all its chips are sold out for 2026, while Samsung said it had secured customers for its HBM chips to be produced next year. Both firms are expanding capacity to meet AI demand, but new factories for conventional chips won't come online until 2027 or 2028.

Two or three years until manufacturing capacity will be ramped up.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dude I have DIMMS that I bought in fucking 1999. Who the fuck throws away RAM?????

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

I have memory thar predates DIMMs and have no plan to throw them away. That guy is crazy

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

What does Samsung's memory division think is going to happen to their phone division if they won't sell them ram, wow.

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Imagine the ship of Theseus, but they don’t replace the parts. They just take them off. It will be very cost efficient, until the ship sinks.

Who needs ram in a phone anyway?

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not sure that leopards will be having a glorious meal is the appropriate symbolism but feel free to give me a better one

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In this case wouldn't it be the leopards eating itself?

A nice roasted tail maybe?

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I was going in a different direction myself. More in the vane of offering the leopard a second meal

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

Some 6,000 miles away in California, Paul Coronado said monthly sales at his company, Caramon, which sells recycled low-end memory chips pulled from decommissioned data-center servers, have surged since September.

"Fortune, fame, mirror vain

Gone insane, but the memory remains"