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[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago

Capitalism strikes again.

[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck AI.

Guess when people ask me what ram do I need for X device I won’t be telling them to use crucial anymore to figure it out.

[–] sfgifz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I won’t be telling them to use crucial anymore

We yes, because eventually the supply would wind down.

[–] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

Bought two 32GB DDR5 RAM Sticks at the start of the year, and turns out that was the best investment of this year.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago (9 children)

AI was never meant to benefit the working class in any capacity.

Its a great rule of thumb that if you see oligarchs hype up something and push for it to be everywhere, its a BAD fucking thing.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They believe they can put an end to having to pay for labor in any capacity ever again. If I knew less than I did about how this AI works I would be worried.

Or if I worked in entertainment.

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[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meanwhile the average CEOs decision making could be replaced by a goldfish in a tank with some arbitrary object detection code.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Resource drain of LLMs inescapably makes them tools availiable only to big players. They are ideal in the way they are naturally gated. Making them mandatory == giving these select companies and people power over everything. And not only oligarchs' promotion, but the whole situation of them being given for free or cheap at a huge loss gives one an idea that there's a lot to milk from it's growing adoption.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

But that's completely not true! Like, not a single thing you said is even slightly correct!

LLMs are relatively cheap to run - at small scales. You can run an LLM on your own computer right now. It won't be super fast, it won't have super skills, but you can run it, and you can train it yourself.

Massive LLMs like ChatGPT require tremendous resources precisely because they are not just tools available only to big players. Everybody on the planet has access to them - for free. The only actual difference there is between running an LLM locally and through a provider is that you get better speed and (sometimes, depending on context) better training through a provider.

As for "there's a lot to milk from its growing adoption" - maybe? Probably? Who knows? That's the "magic" of the AI bubble we're experiencing right now - the big players keep saying that it will "make work and money obsolete", that "anyone will be able to do anything", that "a time of post-scarcity approaches", and a billion other bullshit marketing slogans like that. But the reality is that nobody has yet figured out how to make money on that thing.

Right now, the only reason it's "growing", is because of the weird and probably illegal circular financing that's going on at the very top - Nvidia invests in OpenAI, which invests in Oracle, which invests in Nvidia - and so on. No money is actually being made or (often) even changing hands, but everyone can now show they've received a lot of investment which pumps up their stock prices. The only reason this hasn't popped yet is probably because the main investing parties are using tonnes of cash they had stored.

Growing adoption means nothing. It's a marketing tool for them to keep shareholders happy while they keep a literal investing circlejerk going, every now and again inviting another player into the fold.

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[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course, AI is going to be used as another layer of control.

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[–] catch22@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

!Technological Implosion imminent, please stand clear!

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 day ago (6 children)

this seems incredibly short sighted... the current situation exists because there is a large amount of infrastructure and data centres being built. once that infrastructure is built, the demand will return to normal... OR once the bubble bursts, the market will be flooded with used ram from failed data centres..... aliexpress will be selling ram at a dollar a gig when all these data centres flop

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only people who believe in infinite growth in a finite world are mad men and economists.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

But you repeat yourself.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As someone who does AI and gaming as hobbies, I look forward to a corporate bubble popping. Being able to max out an EPYC or Threadripper Pro's DDR5 capacity would be awesome. :)

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[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

The unfortunate part for DIY PC is that the RAM is likely all buffered ECC. And used flash is sketchy in my experience, even if you buy SLC where the whole point is supposed to be that it is more durable.

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[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So their not shutting down, just focusing on AI idiots until the bubble busts and then they will turn back to consumers.......

Rules of Acquisition #1,261-- Always fuck over the idiots in the market. And when you've taken all their money, go back to your base with inflated prices.

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 98 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Translation, Micron is shutting down Crucial for short term shareholder value at the cost of a sustainable and proven long term brand and channel.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 days ago (6 children)

They will return to the market with a new brand once the bubble bursts.

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[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 102 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

I built a god rig in 2022, i bought the best 64gb ddr5 4-stick ram kit i could, an nvidia 4090, the best processor i could, and attached it to the best mobo i could.

I spent about 4800.

My pc is now worth about 6500.

This is some crazy ass shit. Never should a pc appreciate in value.

What the hell is going on?????

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[–] Dawn_Vibration@lemmy.world 106 points 2 days ago (13 children)

AI is really ruining fucking everything. The enviorment, entertainement, music, art, jobs, reality, freedom / privacy / rights.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, corporate greed is ruining everything with AI.

Because you know if they built a super-AI that give them perfect instructions on how to build Earth into a paradise, but it would require they give up 1/4 of their wealth, they'd be reaching for the reset button before it finished printing them out...

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[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The fact people are blaming the tech rather than the tech bros is a big part of why this keeps happening.

Its the decision of real people that make this situation suck.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 241 points 2 days ago (13 children)

I am really beginning to fucking hate AI. Like, before I just didn't care for it, it just wasn't really my interest. But now I'm really beginning to fucking despise that shit and I really can't wait to see the "AI economy" completely fucking destroyed.

[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I bet we’ll start to see domestic terror attacks against server farms when more of the population loses their jobs to this bullshit.

I ain’t saying I’m going to do it. But a man burned down the governors home in Pennsylvania. People who lose their homes and lives are not going to take this shit well.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 111 points 2 days ago (6 children)

AI even ruined AI. Up until this insane hype train, ML models were specialized tools to achieve their tasks. Now the whole field is dominated by LLMs and slopgen bullshit.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 117 points 2 days ago (5 children)

So far, AI has cost me a few hobbies (as in, made them a lot less enjoyable) and one job.

If there's an uprising against clankers, you'll find me at the front lines.

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[–] thfi@discuss.tchncs.de 331 points 2 days ago (16 children)

I can only hope that the A.I. bubble bursts in time when I need to buy a new computer.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 272 points 2 days ago (30 children)

What I'm becoming worried about now is all these corporations now realizing that they can simply supply price the average consumer out of owning electronics or any kind of compute. And locking them into renting or leasing access to data center compute and keeping the power of information further consolidated in corporate interests.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 206 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit, really? Crucial? They’ve been a major player for AGES. That’s wild.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 125 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I mean, Crucial is just the name that Micron puts on the memory they want to sell to consumers. So this story is basically just, "Micron no longer wants to sell to consumers".

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[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 129 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Damn, that was the only brand of RAM without LEDs and racing stripes on it

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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just installed a 4TB nvme Crucial SSD in my new build solely to put games on.

I'm sure they will come crawling back to consumers after the AI bubble bursts.

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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 109 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I deeply, genuinely, hope that the AI bubble bursts and they get fucked. It's just so short sighted to not hold on to the safety rope.

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