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Thank you so much for commenting this. It's so annoying to see both the original screenshot and so many exchanges in here either playing dumb or actually being dumb about WHY they see PBS as propaganda. As always, people are more interested in appearing to preach epic gotcha wins to their own choir, while totally sweeping the real meaning of their opponent's statement under the rug. It's not being nice and learning to read that the right takes issue with PBS over, it's race, gender, and sexuality issues. But rather than respond to them on that more difficult ground, the masses choose to go for pointless low hanging fruit like "lol so you hate kindness????", and then congratulate the OP for owning the right, meanwhile the right is totally unphased by that completely off-topic mark-missing response. And then we wonder why the right sees us as a bunch of circlejerky bubble-world morons.
Tolerance for others and their inherent traits is basic kindness. So yes, if you are not OK with black/queer people than you hate kindness.
Modern western "right wing" are outright fascists. We should not concern ourselves with what they think of us, except if it helps us fight their ideology. You won't be able to convince them with logical arguments of any quality, because they hold their position not because of logic but because of repeated propaganda that leverages the inherent human fear of unknown and different.
The most realistic way I see of things changing is as follows:
Capitalism will inevitably squeeze those people harder and harder, until they can't afford groceries and rent, despite millions of immigrants being deported and woke TV programs being banned. At that point they might question their ideology and yearn for change, and the left needs to be ready. If the western left once again squanders its potential and do-nothing neolibs (a-la Biden or Harris) get back in office, you can kiss your civil rights goodbye, because they won't fix the fundamental issues with the system and the voters will swing to fascists again the next cycle.
What needs to happen is that at least demsocs like Mamdani getting into offices all over the country. If that happens, they might at least do something to fight against capitalism and unlimited extraction of surplus labor, and improve material conditions for people, at least a little bit. If that happens under left's watch, people will associate the ideology with good material conditions, and will appreciate its other tenets (human rights, equality, tolerance, inclusion) more. Whether this leads to vaguely left-wing rule for a while, a-la FDR, or an actual outright revolution is of course questionable, but it's the only way forward for the US IMHO.
Y'all need to make a third party that represents the left, because Democrats never will.
Start with local elections and build your rep, you need a genuine left leaning pressure on the politics of your nation - showing that people will show up to vote for real left leaning values is the way.
The DSA should become a party of their own right.
We've had third parties of various types for centuries, it has become a financial impossibility for third parties to succeed in modern America.
With Citizens United and hundreds of new billionaires, I think it's possible.
I completely understand your argument and I agree, but I would also say that acceptance of other races, sexualities, nationalities, etc is , at its core, just kindness, and that MAGA generally dislikes kindness toward anyone who isn’t cis, white, and American, or a token minority who agrees with their policies. That’s kind of one of the main problems with MAGA.
They don't even like kindness for themselves. They like rigid obedience. The instant anyone steps out of line they get beaten into submission or disowned.