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[–] saimen@feddit.org 27 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I would say this holds true for the USA considering all this fast "food" they eat. A culture that loves food doesn't do this.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are large sections of the US that don't have consistent access to great food, so crappy fast food is what they get.

Then there are other parts of the US where the fast food is amazing. Also the other food.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Comments like OP usually come from Europeans who just want to shit on America. I live abroad in Europe and I can tell you their food has just as much crap in it as ours. Plus fast food is everywhere in the cities. The key difference is access to healthy food and a higher standard of living. No food deserts or high cost of living to make fast food your only real option.

If America didnt like food it wouldn't have so many different food cultures to begin with

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I appreciate your perspective.

I'll do you one better and say that a lot of times it comes from chronically online Americans who got their opinion from said Europeans. And at least some of the time it's from third world bots whose marching orders are to spread any and every kind of anti-American sentiment.

Lately I just prefer to put the opposing idea out into the aether rather than try to dig into a whole online argument.. thing.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Living in the EU as an American there is a very real sense of superiority that Europeans hold over their american counterparts. Blaming it on bots is disingenuous

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

But one of the things Russian troll farms are paid to do is spread general anti-American sentiment. I'm not trying to explain away the comments; I'm describing a real thing that happens.

[–] saimen@feddit.org -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But that's my point. There is access to healthy food and there are no food deserts because people care about food. Of course there is still crappy food.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Food deserts exists because white ppl didn't like the idea of brown ppl having the access to the same benefits they receive. American food culture doesn't exist without brown ppl. A country that thrives on multiculturalism doesn't exist without a love of food. The problem is racism gets in the way of its true potential

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Nor drowns every flavor in corn syrup!

[–] essell@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't know much about corn syrup, but I assume for all the talking about it and the way it's used that it's basically ambrosia if the gods lived in a trailer park instead of on Mount Olympus.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Americans don't particularly like the stuff, nobody adds it to their own food, it's just added to every food at the factory to make it more addictive.

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah, we aren't buying it like maple syrup, although most maple syrup is just corn syrup with maple flavor here, it's just shoved in to everything sweet.

Go ready the ingredients list for practically anything sold in a box here and fir some reason HFC is just in there. No reason. Its cheap as fuck.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 6 points 4 days ago

Love your description! Incredibly fitting! It’s tasteless honey, basically. Very sweet but not much else

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

It’s just really cheap sugar because the US government heavily subsidizes corn farming. So naturally you get a huge surplus of corn. So much that it’s a cheaper sweetener than sugar. So cheap that it’s added to our (already cheap and subsidized) gasoline. And yes, sugar is addictive.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

(the ketchup is also made from corn syrup)

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Their fast "food" which is consumed all over the globe? Clearly, a lot of people in general like eating it.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These people eat the local version of it. I personally like to go to MacDonald's in France. Better than any German dish I can find here. Yet I shudder when I recall what that crap tasted like in the USA

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've had McDonald's in other countries and it's not as big a difference as you make it out to be. This smacks of shitting on the US for the sake of it. There are many, MANY other more legitimate reasons to do so.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

People note that even McDonald's in Hawaii is way better than that in the continental US.

[–] rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Those food companies have spent decades doing chemical research on how to make that food as addictive as possible. Then of course there's all the marketing on top of that. Most people can't break free of it.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

It's also about making it as cheaply as possible, which is why cooking yourself is better than almost any other food.

[–] bystander@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 days ago

A culture that doesn't appreciate food allows it to happen slowly.