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[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 days ago (10 children)

This meme format is sexist. Why is it always always always the woman who has the negative side?

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You would have to be terminally online to be upset over something this trivial

[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I think it's a fair point. Anyone could be either person so no one instance of this is directly offensive, but I agree memes like this seem to routinely put down women.

I don't think op is pissing and shitting and crying over it, there's just no place to talk about it other than the meme itself. Anyone could criticise your comment in the same way, and it's just a strawman argument.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
  • Third party service run by corpos who pinky promise not to harvest any of your data

  • In-app tool that doesn't cache your client-side data

Is the woman the negative side on this?

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think that was the intent. Lemmy is extremely anti-Google.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I genuinely wonder what people think they're using a VPN for. Do they think they've outwitted a trillion dollars in surveillance with an $8/mo subscription service?

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A VPN is part of a toolset. No tool alone is enough, and they only really work for some porpoises.

Some people think it is enough. Some people think chrome incognito is enough. Some people are wrong.

I'm any case, privacy is a spectrum. I can't be untraceable by state agents, but I can avoid a lot of non targeted spying.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m any case, privacy is a spectrum. I can’t be untraceable by state agents, but I can avoid a lot of non targeted spying.

Absolutely. But then, as often as not, just using the browser feature that doesn't cache client side data is enough.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The only thing that does is prevents other people who have physical access to the computer from seeing your gross browsing habits though...which I guess might be enough for many.

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

I mean it def makes it harder to track.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ummm yes I am betting people think that. Are they wrong? It makes sense that Google could do that if they really wanted to, but I doubt they do pretty much anything that doesn't have a profit motive.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

What? I always thought the guy was the negative side! The woman is the reasonable normie, the guy is the weirdo tinfoil hat nerd!

What even are all those crappy icons?

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

They are both the bad side in this case.

[–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The format doesn't seem to be inherently. Have you tried interacting with fewer dudes?

i think I've seen a lot of cases when it's the other way round.

although if we do the statistics it'll likely show a bias.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not everything is sexist queen 💅

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

It's fish in a barrel.

You don't always hit, but the odds are stacked heavily in your favor

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If it were the other way around, would it be sexist?

Is it required that any meme with a “good” and “bad” side have no demographic distinction between the sides?

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's not that this one example is like this, it's that it seems to always be one way around and not the other, with this meme format

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, it would still be sexist if it were the other way around. I don't think I've ever seen a meme with this format which didn't have a "good" and "bad" side.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m genuinely curious what you’d think if they were both thin white straight-coded average-height women but with different hair color.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Well, it would be difficult for a format like that to bring out the biases of meme creators.

One of the reasons this meme format is problematic is that this is a screenshot from "500 Days of Summer" which was a film that was wildly misunderstood by misogynists. The entire point of the film is to show the perspective of the male character, which villainizes the female character when she breaks his heart when she dumps him. But by the end of the movie the viewer is supposed to realize that she did nothing wrong and just wasn't as in to him as he was into her.

Incels and misogynists everywhere misunderstood the hell out of the themes and message. So it's not a great movie to take a meme format from.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Wut? How? This meme was originally gay lol

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago