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[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 173 points 5 days ago (4 children)

False DMCA takedowns need to be criminalized, companies have abused them for decades now.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That is the DMCA working exactly as intended. Giving companies the ability to leverage their own wealth and resources to abuse and suppress competition was always the DMCA’s goal.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yup. People talking about DMCA reform, or adding penalties for false takedown requests… In reality, this is the DMCA working exactly as intended. It’s like discussing police reform, but the police are functioning exactly how the ruling class want them to.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

The only effective DMCA reform would be to abolish the DMCA.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Copyright in general is about suppressing and abusing competition, there's a little bit of difference now that the old Victorian-style copyright laws lasted as long as the author, more or less, and every legal action was taken through a court, not like these letters of happiness.

It's funny how we seem similar to the pre-WWI mood of "everything has been invented, abolish patents", I wonder if the "pre-WWI" part is too going to rhyme. Hope that not, of course, but most of the innovation seems to be in direct or indirect warfare (all of big tech is honestly that). And there's one nation whose elites seem to make weird destructive moves. And which is on the down trajectory in its GDP relative to the world for the last 50 years. And which has the world's biggest military spending.

After all, humans need a reminder that for the plethora of technologies that seem like a favorable to them weapon unseen before, there are also similarly many technologies that may be unfavorable to them weapons unseen before.

Nazi Germany used radio and encryption and maneuverability and wonderful air force to achieve successes, then the other sides used radars and computers and mass modular production and MLRS'es.

Perhaps the current rotting of copyright and patent system is because the elites think they don't need more natural peaceful development. Global bloodletting usually heals that kind of ideas. Some things can only be learned on your own experience.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Copyright is a surviving instance of the old system of royal warrants: monopolies granted by a monarch, usually to cronies, occasionally as a reward for some kind of good work (scientific discovery, work of art, etc).

It's a system that's full of opportunities for corruption and bureaucratic oppression, and should either be massively scaled back, or dumped entirely. It does far more harm than good.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

I agree, unfortunately things only keep existing when there's balance between their sides in power.

Such balance is - those benefiting from copyright have a lot to offer and threaten to those making copyright, and the other way around.

It's all military logic now. 50 years ago it could have been solved by a popular movement, now any movement really threatening copyright will have its figures murdered left and right.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a fraudulent claim of ownership. Why wouldn't existing law apply?

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 1 points 8 hours ago

Can't speak to the why but in practice, nobody ever gets punished for abusing DMCA takedowns even with they use bots to spam fraudulent claims, and it's a widespread practice.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

Just abolish DMCA and hvae companies defend their intellectual property in courts instead of bribing the government in doing it.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Just allow companies to charge a small fee to process a DMCA takedown, and establish a daily compensation rate based on view counts for the uploader (cost payable by the company issuing the takedown - not the entity they represent). Suddenly you only issue a takedown for clear infringement, with the cost paid by the uploader only when clear proof is given that it is a DMCA infringement. If there is a long delay, the uploader gets more compensation, whereas the uploader is only liable for the initial takedown fee.