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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

It's monopolistic corporations and incompetent governments that are runing the Internet for everyone. OF is a pox, but compared to those larger factors, OF piracy is nearly irrelevant. It might even be a positive if it damages OF.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just the piracy of OF is ruining the internet and not OF as a whole? I mean like 89% of the shit on Reddit is some OF model advertising.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I miss when porn subs were filled with amateur and curated content instead of prostitute ads...

[–] sip@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean like 89% of the shit on Reddit is some OF model advertising.

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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean like 89% of the shit on Reddit is some OF model advertising.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

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[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Advertising is ruining the internet.

Copyright and patent laws shouldn't even exist.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 hours ago

Copyright, with a reasonable term (say, 14 years) is potentially useful in preserving author's rights to profit from their own works. Patent laws should be applied far more strictly with respect to prior art and what constitutes a significant innovation, and should never be applied to algorithms. "Same as X, but ON THE INTERNET!" patents should be rejected in every case.

[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 468 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Weird way to spell "How automated DMCA take-down requests are ruining the internet for everyone"

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 168 points 2 days ago (1 children)

More like "How DMCA is ruining the internet" considering these companies are just complying with the law.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I think it says automated takedown requests, not automated reactions to those requests.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, pretty much my takeaway. It's not OF piracy or even enforcement of copyright, it's out of control automation.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Nah this was issue before automation as well. Low paid employees aren't particularly better than AI here nor do they care to be whe they get paid barely anything.

[–] HolidayGreed@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

We don't know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky. At the time, they were dependent on solar power. It was believed they would be unable to survive without an energy source as abundant as the sun.

Morpheus, 1999

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 173 points 2 days ago (4 children)

False DMCA takedowns need to be criminalized, companies have abused them for decades now.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

It's a fraudulent claim of ownership. Why wouldn't existing law apply?

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Just abolish DMCA and hvae companies defend their intellectual property in courts instead of bribing the government in doing it.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That is the DMCA working exactly as intended. Giving companies the ability to leverage their own wealth and resources to abuse and suppress competition was always the DMCA’s goal.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. People talking about DMCA reform, or adding penalties for false takedown requests… In reality, this is the DMCA working exactly as intended. It’s like discussing police reform, but the police are functioning exactly how the ruling class want them to.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

The only effective DMCA reform would be to abolish the DMCA.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Copyright in general is about suppressing and abusing competition, there's a little bit of difference now that the old Victorian-style copyright laws lasted as long as the author, more or less, and every legal action was taken through a court, not like these letters of happiness.

It's funny how we seem similar to the pre-WWI mood of "everything has been invented, abolish patents", I wonder if the "pre-WWI" part is too going to rhyme. Hope that not, of course, but most of the innovation seems to be in direct or indirect warfare (all of big tech is honestly that). And there's one nation whose elites seem to make weird destructive moves. And which is on the down trajectory in its GDP relative to the world for the last 50 years. And which has the world's biggest military spending.

After all, humans need a reminder that for the plethora of technologies that seem like a favorable to them weapon unseen before, there are also similarly many technologies that may be unfavorable to them weapons unseen before.

Nazi Germany used radio and encryption and maneuverability and wonderful air force to achieve successes, then the other sides used radars and computers and mass modular production and MLRS'es.

Perhaps the current rotting of copyright and patent system is because the elites think they don't need more natural peaceful development. Global bloodletting usually heals that kind of ideas. Some things can only be learned on your own experience.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Copyright is a surviving instance of the old system of royal warrants: monopolies granted by a monarch, usually to cronies, occasionally as a reward for some kind of good work (scientific discovery, work of art, etc).

It's a system that's full of opportunities for corruption and bureaucratic oppression, and should either be massively scaled back, or dumped entirely. It does far more harm than good.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago

I agree, unfortunately things only keep existing when there's balance between their sides in power.

Such balance is - those benefiting from copyright have a lot to offer and threaten to those making copyright, and the other way around.

It's all military logic now. 50 years ago it could have been solved by a popular movement, now any movement really threatening copyright will have its figures murdered left and right.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Just allow companies to charge a small fee to process a DMCA takedown, and establish a daily compensation rate based on view counts for the uploader (cost payable by the company issuing the takedown - not the entity they represent). Suddenly you only issue a takedown for clear infringement, with the cost paid by the uploader only when clear proof is given that it is a DMCA infringement. If there is a long delay, the uploader gets more compensation, whereas the uploader is only liable for the initial takedown fee.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 66 points 2 days ago

So ... The piracy is not actually taking down anything.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 179 points 2 days ago (2 children)

blames pirates in the headline

goes on to say how it's, yet again, actually an AI problem

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yet all I can see is a copyright problem.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Americans: invent a law that allows anyone to take down content online without any repercussions
Lemmy: blasted AI - ruining everything!

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[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago

Yea ultimately the story has nothing to do with piracy but I imagine they included Only Fans in the headline because its good for SEO, ironically.

[–] _druid@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Villify women making money for themselves, and demonize people getting shit for free, and make it sound like these are problems for the common person!

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's not scummy.

And as for people getting shit for free, I support a maximalist position on right of first sale: sharing what you own should be legal in all cases. If that inconveniences some mass aggregator of content, tough shit: the ease of sharing gives the lie to the notion that the aggregator adds any value, instead, they're just rent-seeking parasites.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 106 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I feel like the problem mentioned is like a drop in the ocean compared to the enshitification of Google as a whole. Google has been almost unusable even if this didn’t happen.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Google, sadly, is truely dead.

I moved on to Duckduckgo, because the results really aren't worse. Aren't better either though.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago

Kagi is also super good but it's paid.

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[–] Stubb@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Google's control over the internet will harm all users as they scram further to find places where profit can be squeezed more and more until they're functionally bankrupt.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

not just internet, they are going to prevent android users from installing any programs they dont approve first. So most likely goodbye f-droid and any opensource program

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey, bit of a crazy idea , but what if we accelerated the destruction of the internet, destroyed it from within before those trying to capture it were ready to take over ?

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 days ago

Yes. An AI alternative to LOIC is desperately needed, for every humanist with a computer to run and to attack the enemy with streams and streams of textual and visual garbage.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 46 points 2 days ago

The DMCA is what you get when you get greedy media and Internet companies to write legislation for lawmakers that have no idea what any of that means, while in the background the people have not had a chance to use any of it. It should have come with an expiration date 10 years from signing and should have been redone now that we are actually using the stuff.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This is why I use telegram.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Welp, time to delist Google itself

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but really does that even matter when the top results are just ads anyway? The problem is advertising has taken over search engines and now AI makes it even less likely people "searching" for things will even bother to click off of the search website.

DMCA takedown abuse isn't anything new, this article seems like it was just due to 404 media having to deal with it, onlyfans is tangentially related and clearly just used in the headline for clickbait purposes... I really expected better of 404 media, The issue is a valid and increasingly worse one, it shouldnt need a clickbait headline. "DMCA Automation is ruining the internet" or something to that effect would have been a lot better.

This whole thing is also a scam on content creators, people arent pirating content by searching for it on google, they're finding out about websites by talking to people on discord (which itself is not searchable of course) and other such services. Anyone paying for these kind of takedown services is getting taken for a ride.

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[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“We don't really review it [the list] because we are an agent for them,” Ananad said. “For the requests that we send out ourselves, usually they get reviewed, but sometimes they [clients] do a search by themselves, and they come across some content and they flag it and they're like, ‘We want this taken down.’ We don't review that because that is something that they want taken down. I'm not particularly sure about this case, but that is what happens. What we planned on doing was also reviewing these but it's usually not very fruitful, because the user is very sure they want that claim. And even if we say, ‘Hey, we don't think you should do that,’ they're like, ‘We want to do it. Just do it because I'm paying you for this.’ And if we just say, do it yourself, that kind of takes away the business from us. So that is basically how it works.”

What?

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 20 points 2 days ago

It's fuckin ruined already.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Pick a search engine that doesn't hide torrent

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