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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This sentence here invalidates anything else you might say. If you “strategically” support the imperialist, authoritarian capitalist power just because they are in opposition to a different imperialist capitalist power, then it’s not actually about oppossing imperialism or capitalism is it? You’re just being a contrarian.

Russia is not imperialist. It has a paltry amount of finance capital, has no colonies nor neo-colonies, and does not have a place in the world imperialist system. As a consequence, the global south aligns itself with Russia and China when throwing off the shackles of imperialism. This is why I say we Marxists have a scientific approach to analyzing imperialism that isn't based on vibes, yet you reduce it back to vibes to discredit me. Nothing I said invalidates my views and analysis, you're declaring that it does to refuse engaging with it.

Same with China, it’s not a socialist country is it? The workers don’t have actually power, the party does and the workers can’t chose the party, china still has it’s Uber rich capitalist class that profit off the back of the workers. In fact it’s more of a capitalist hellhole than many western nations, but again tankies will ignore all that and blindly support then because of Pure contrarianisn to US bullshit.

This is also why it's important to study theory and the existing conditions in China, rather than resort to vibes. Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, the working class governs the state through the CPC, and unlike the imperialist nations that you're referring to here, China doesn't super-exploit the global south but instead has contributed dramatically to the further development of global south countries by undermining imperialism and unequal exchange. I'm not a contrarion, I've studied both Marxist-Leninist theory and the PRC's system to come to the conclusions I have, while you give the appearance of having done neither.

So you guys are just raging hypocrites that will support whatever bullshit, no matter how bad as long it’s vaguely anti-american/anti-western. So you’re as opposed to ACTUAL progress as even the most diehard neo-con, the only difference being how smug and holier than thou you lot are about and the fact that you really should know better.

This is what I mean by liberals refusing to listen to Marxists, and instead plugging their ears when we explain our views and substituting them with irrational, emotion-driven responses. Again, you should actually study socialism and socialist countries, rather than reflexively plug your ears and cover your eyes upon hearing Marxist analysis.