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[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

THAT piece of paper is evidence.

[–] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 21 points 8 months ago

It’s likely one of many reasons Trump is so anti-FBI in his first term, train his followers to think they can’t be trusted.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

It’s not evidence of a crime. It’s a report. Someone said it, it got written down.

I’m not saying it is or it is not true.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

That’s not what the Epstein files are. They’re literally any paperwork related to him, even the tips from kooks. Some reaches the level of evidence, most is cruft.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This "paperwork" suggests that TRUMP murdered a newborn and dumped it into a lake after having SEX with a CHILD.

Are YOU suggesting that we treat it as gossip or should we look a bit closer???

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m saying an accusation can be made by anyone, and does not automatically constitute fact. Its presence in the file doesn’t mean the claim was substantiated.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This accusation was not made by "anyone". It was made by the woman who watched him murder her newborn.

Why would she say that? Money? Fame? Power? She currently HAS none of that.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To shift blame? For attention? Mental illness? We don’t know enough of the context. Was it investigated? What was the outcome? Was it deemed credible?

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Credible enough to remain in the files.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Again, the files are a dump of everything they have related to Epstein. There is no credibility threshold.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I noticed that there is NOTHIING from ME in the Epstein files. I said lots of things about him.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You made a formal complaint about him to the FBI, did you?

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

No, what a shame we only have one way to purge evil from our society. But maybe I've pre-judged him.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

They don't delete reports from record when they're deemed not credible. Not even when they're proven false.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The report was made a couple months before the 2020 election. Many others also made wild reports. I saw two others in the Epstein files made literally 6 days for the election.

There are plenty of reasons to make up a story.

But sure, they should go and investigate it. Starting with the woman and her uncle. Oh wait, I bet the uncle is dead. And I bet she took great effort to gather evidence... right...?

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of reasons to make up a story.

Like being targeted for harassment and possibly get murdered? This is not a typical rape accusation, it is made against someone who has been carrying out extra-judicial murders abroad.

And I bet she took great effort to gather evidence

This is classic rape apologetics. It is not the victim's job to collect evidence while they are distressed, that's the job of the investigators.