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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 days ago (22 children)

The US killed a million innocent people in Iraq just a few years ago, and is *currently * drone bombing several countries in ME and north africa, and is currently supporting the apartheid state of israel with billions of dollars in military aid.

The PRC has not been in a war since its skirmish with Vietnam in 1979.

The US has a network of > 800 military bases across the globe, and has been involved in regime change in nearly every country.

Which one is authoritarian?

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Look up the definition of authoritarianism. Bombing other countries is not the defining feature of an authoritarian government.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 23 hours ago

Terms like Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism were defined or entrenched by a lot of western supremacist authors, who needed to twist terminology in such a way that excluded the US (capitalism's worldwide enforcer and the cause of so much death and destruction) from any wrongdoing, while demonizing the colonial world who fought back against the US for their own sovereignty as "authoritarian".

I highly suggest reading Losurdo's - Western Marxism, for an in-depth analysis of some of these white supremacist authors, and how they demonize the anti-colonial struggle.

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So, authoritarian is when they don't bomb other countries, and libertarian is when they bomb every day?

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip -2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Nope didn't say that at all, nice try though. You can be authoritarian and not bomb other countries and you can be authoritarian and bomb other countries.

Foreign affairs dont necessarily effect that determination.

The US I'd say is authoritarian and imperialist.

A country like Saudia Arabia or North Korea is just Authoritarian and tend to at least only meddle with boarding nations.

[–] Equality_Executor@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago

That's cool and all but still irrelevant to the original point. You can be authoritarian to your own citizens domestically without invading other nations.

The US is both imperialist and authoritarian.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"They can both be authoritarian"

"WELL USA INVADED IRAQ"

Lmao

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

take a look at that map and you will notice they are fucking over the entire planet.

not just iraq, although usians like to ignore how much death and suffering they caused there. (all the while they sanction places like cuba)

you couped my country and made it undemocratic to this day and you can't even tell where i'm from.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

you couped my country and made it undemocratic to this day and you can't even tell where i'm from.

You can't either it seems since I'm not American. What's with assuming everyone online is American lol

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

i mean we are speaking their language, and you seemed to be defending them.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

scale matters my guy. One is not committing war crimes at least.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago

Well duh, it's just a funny reply to the statement that they're both authoritarian

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