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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Andrew: As far as Fuentes is concerned, I feel like his viewpoints would have been mainstream not that long ago.

In 1935, yes.

If he’s saying something like most women want to be raped, well, Fifty Shades of Grey sells like hotcakes to women, so I feel like that’s just a fact.

Jesus fucking Christ.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Having not read 50 shades of Grey, doesn’t she consent to the BDSM stuff? I recall reading that there are some issues in the novel that don’t follow the well established rules in the subculture, but still

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Basically yes. There are problematic elements but it's not rape. Also it's fiction where things happen in service to a plot that, unlike real life, comes to a resolution. So even if a woman does enjoy reading about rape, that doesn't mean she wants it. In fact, it's often read for cathartic reasons to deal with trauma. It's about overcoming a situation she can identify with, not wallowing in the assault (caveat: healing is different for different people. I can't speak for everyone, but I understand my wife pretty well).

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You're looking for delineation and distinction where the right wing doesn't. 50 shades was a book about fucking rich people doing whatever they wanted and the woman accepting it. That's the stereotypical impression from people who don't read.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

"The fact that "All quite on the Western Front" proves that men just want to watch their friends die in a pointless war, it's just fact."/s

People are crazy to not get that fiction can in fact represent a wide range of things from support, condemnation, and even neutral exploration of a meriad of topics at once.