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Andrew: As far as Fuentes is concerned, I feel like his viewpoints would have been mainstream not that long ago.
In 1935, yes.
If he’s saying something like most women want to be raped, well, Fifty Shades of Grey sells like hotcakes to women, so I feel like that’s just a fact.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Having not read 50 shades of Grey, doesn’t she consent to the BDSM stuff? I recall reading that there are some issues in the novel that don’t follow the well established rules in the subculture, but still
Basically yes. There are problematic elements but it's not rape. Also it's fiction where things happen in service to a plot that, unlike real life, comes to a resolution. So even if a woman does enjoy reading about rape, that doesn't mean she wants it. In fact, it's often read for cathartic reasons to deal with trauma. It's about overcoming a situation she can identify with, not wallowing in the assault (caveat: healing is different for different people. I can't speak for everyone, but I understand my wife pretty well).
You're looking for delineation and distinction where the right wing doesn't. 50 shades was a book about fucking rich people doing whatever they wanted and the woman accepting it. That's the stereotypical impression from people who don't read.
"The fact that "All quite on the Western Front" proves that men just want to watch their friends die in a pointless war, it's just fact."/s
People are crazy to not get that fiction can in fact represent a wide range of things from support, condemnation, and even neutral exploration of a meriad of topics at once.
Tbh I think this is much more an indictment of misogynistic, incurious, “Christian” (specifically Christian, as they overwhelmingly identify with the sect; in quotes because their positions are just so comically and obviously antithetical to what Christianity is ostensibly about) people, who aren’t terribly intelligent or mentally critical. Less sure about how much of a role living in Tennessee plays here, but I’m also sure it doesn’t help.
The levels of cognitive dissonance are… frankly baffling. “Andrew” straight up doesn’t think women should vote, and thinks Jewish people (across the board - Jewish, not Israel or even Israeli people) are “a force for evil”… and yet picks AOC as a candidate he’d like for president…?
Also: lmfao at the dudes going “waaaaah there are too many feminist women and nobody wants to date me”
Ladies and gentlefolk: the American Education System.
In all likelihood though, they just cherry picked the worst person they could find. The Gen z folks I happen to know are all extremely well adjusted, kind, more empathetic than I am and seem to have been able to see the writing on the wall for their future lives way sooner than my peers and I did.
Admittedly, it only takes a few psychopaths to undo all of that, so like any generation it's probably a wash.
Not disagreeing, but I think the problem is letting people like this have a voice. The people producing this stuff think, “let’s shock people with this dudes behavior,” but in reality a shocking number of people think, “I’m not alone! I can say and think this!”
One minute they're saying women are too emotional, belong in the home, and one goes so far as to say they shouldn't be able to vote, the next they don't want Muslims in the country because they treat women as second class citizens.
It really smacks of people who have an end belief and later try to find a somewhat socially acceptable rationalization for it. Which is ironic with how much they praised conservative pundits who apparently do all the research or whatever.
Moderator: Does anyone think women should not be allowed to vote?
Only Andrew raises his hand.
Moderator: What do you think of Adolf Hitler?
Andrew: I’m in favor of a strong executive. I think we should have a stronger executive branch... I’m very pro-strong executive, strong leader, strong man. I support national sovereignty, and Hitler was a nationalist. He was like, we have to take Germany back for Germans. And I feel like we should do that in America. We should take America back for our native population. So, I’m not an expert on Hitler by any means, but as far as nationalism is concerned, I’m all that.
Moderator: What do you think of Jewish people?
Andrew: I would say a force for evil. I don’t see why we support Israel. I think Israel’s a very evil state. The genocide in Gaza, killing all these poor people. And the only reason we really support them is because they are the biggest donors. We have AIPAC, and these are all Jewish-run organizations.
Moderator: Let me clarify that. Andrew, you think the Jewish people are a force for evil?
Andrew: Yes, sir. It doesn’t bother me if it’s true. Those slurs, if you’re racist or whatever, that just rolls off my back… This is my country, my people have been here since the American Revolution, so I say what I want to.
I’d call America back to its native population a damn good start.
It's a wild read...
no kidding...
For some, that may not come from the Right.
One participant named Michelle Obama as his ideal next president. Another—the same one who had praised Nick Fuentes—cited Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as preferable to Ben Shapiro.
some people really just like kick-ass people and don't care about the exact set of policies they're gonna implement.
And i would say that yes, AOC is a kick-ass personality. That's why i like her too. (but just to be clear, i don't like nick fuentes)
What the fuck?
the "z" in gen z comes from the word "zero". as in, zero intelligence, zero prospects, zero accountability, zero hope.
Gen Zero.
A heavily propagandized, desensitized, sociopathic, and mentally-ill group... who would've thought?
Here's what they think: insert a bunch of angry fascist shit gleaned from youtube and twitch
Youtube and twitch are the biggest drivers of fascism and you can't change my view
Interesting and well-written write-up. Definitely worth a read.
I found it interesting how lots of people seem to get their views entirely from social media and have no self-experienced real-life experiences.
Like, most of their takes seem to be getting from social media. There's actually short interviews with each of the candidates in the article. Then, i wonder, isn't it the same for many of you/us? Who really gets their news from own-life experiences? Who really goes out to the people to see how they're doing? Basically nobody. It's not good if we rely on articles too much for our input. Because articles are biased and often incisive. We can only find our own worldview if we see the world through our own eyes, with as few middle-men as possible, because middle-men blur the picture. It's like the telephone game. The longer the chain of information transport, the more distorted the informations get. It's best to directly make own observations.
No question on what they think about the Epstein files?
Every single person in this article is a complete fool or a deranged maniac who should be thrown in a big hole. None of them have opinions worth considering for more than a second.
With IQs that low who could understand the response.