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[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I’m not convinced we could organize well enough to make that happen.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Once unemployment hits critical mass, there's a pull like a siphon. Enough people around to just, always make life hell for those in charge and that usually makes thing change. Then those trapped in employment all go on break at once, adding to the crowds. Happened before, will happen again. Almost happened during covid (thus the push to reopen business). This time we gotta push for a safety net and an end to fascism.

Oh, and since the fascists are in office it will be... bloody. That usually pushes people to act. Just gotta trust those around us. That's why you should go to protests. So you bring it closer to critical mass, the point, in numbers, beyond where the local cops are willing to escalate.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It all comes together quite quickly once people can’t feed themselves en masse. We’re not there yet but when it happens it happens fast.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

This is a very naive way of thinking that comes from a propagandized view of revolutions and ignorance of history on all the efforts that came before which allowed those revolutions to happen at all. It doesn't come together quickly. It is explicitly the result of having a community foundation and culture to build revolutionary effort on which took years of concerted effort to reach that point. Organizing doesn't happen spontaneously nor quickly. Anyone who told you otherwise was lying to you.

The ruling class has systematically been dismantling that very foundation since the Taft Hartley act.

The same risk of starvation that pushes people to revolution also pushes them to obedience to strongmen who promise to fix their problems by removing the "undesirables" who are being blamed for the misfortune. Without the proper working class culture of solidarity and a community foundation, people are more than likely just going to turn on their neighbors than they are to work with them, especially with the culture of hyper-individualism and xenophobia that the US has cultivated.

If we fail to build back that foundation, people are just going to sell each other out for their next slice of bread.