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The people who support Trump after even 2018 are literally so cognitively disabled, I would genuinely submit for consideration that those people are as true to NPCs as possible.
Your average cockroach is more capable of self reflection and complex critical thinking than your average Trump supporter.
Bacertia is a better candidate for holding its own personal, and expansive personal thoughts than a Trump supporter.
ChatGPT is more capable of hallucinating genuine human empathy and emotional intelligence than a Trump supporter.
Cosmic background radiation is more grounded to Earth than a Trump supporter.
These people are simply stupid beyond repair and shouldn't be respected as equals in any capacity.
i wonder if you are aware that you are brainwashing yourself. it's okay to cope, we all have to do it these days, but its best kept to yourself where it causes less secondary harm.
The only people brainwashing themselves are those so fucking stupid they think people who've gleefully supported Nazism for over 10 years now don't explicitly and knowingly support autocracy and genocide.
Maybe stop coping and pretending these assholes can be redeemed in any way and aren anything but a hostile enemy that'd see you and everyone like you die, and are currently making big strides to seeing that through.
The left loses when we constantly shoot our own balls off and attempt empathy and understanding to these sadistic sociopaths who've only ever demonstrated doubling down in that direction.
So get with reality or sit down and shut the fuck up, because people like you hold all real progress back. Stop cucking yourself to Nazis.
You don't know a fucking thing about me. You just want to work yourself up into a pseudoreligious froth. Because that's how you are coping with your fear and insecurity. But it's fucked up and it doesn't advance the goals you claim to care about. It's childish and harmful to those around you. Grow the fuck up and do something KIND for the world, if you're so fucking afraid of nazis, you coward (since we're apparently calling names now).
I know exactly what you are. You are like every other pathetic, fucking moronic leftist who wants to tuck their balls inside themselves and make peace with those gleefully supporting or outright committing atrocities to all the marginalized peoples you pretend to care about to virtue signal and feel better about yourself.
Wake up and join the rest of us in reality, you fuck. Stop with the Neville Chamberlain bullshit. You really want people to find the innocence in the party spearheading genocide domestically, destroying the rule of law entirely, sending the military into opposition cities to quell dissidents, destabilizing countries by illegally kidnappings their leadership, threatening NATO (of which two other member nations have nukes), and fundamentally destroying the economy for the benefit of delusional billionaires?
And you have the fucking audacity to disagree that these assholes aren't Nazis? The mother fuckers doing all of that, plus constantly spam fucking Nazi dog whistles to the public? Seriously?
Are you just stupid or are you stupid and on their side? You act like a fucking 1990's liberal, as if these people committing so many atrocities can be conquered and tamed with talk and strongly worded letters. Wake the fuck up and stop being so fucking pathetic. At least 1/3rd of the country is fully in support of the atrocities this pedophile piece of shit president is committing. They are a hostile enemy. Wake the fuck up for once in your miserable life. The world isn't a fucking fairy tale like you want it to be.
What's your favorite Obama war?
Give us a list of them so we can choose.
There's Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, & Somalia. Iraq and Afghanistan are carryovers from Bush, so those would be cheating.
Probably Libya then.
Great choice. An African American turning one of the wealthiest nations in Africa into a failed state with open slave trade markets is quite the achievement. I, myself, and more fond of the Syrian war, where the US, the biggest military in the history of the world, literally ran out of bombs, cause it dropped so many on one nation, whose oil fields are currently controlled by America. The bombing of Yemen is also great! We successfully bombed not just weddings, but also school busses full of children, and even made Jim Carrey into a world famous artists of his drawing of the incident. And also where Obama successfully took out a family member of a known terrorist, his 16 year old American son.
One thing worth considering, is that on a global/historical basis it is not unheard of for whole societies (strong majority if not overwhelming majority) to descend into degeneracy, chauvinism and corruption.
In a sense, this is not something specific to the US. These things unfortunately happen.
I see where you are coming from, but I think it's dangerous to give too much benefit of the doubt and to look at things as we want them to be, not how they are.
I don't disavow that potential. It's a real potential. It's a terrifyingly real potential. And shit like the comment above and the mentality it expresses certainly doesn't make that potential better.
I disagree with this framing.
I've travelled and lived for several years in many countries across NA (including the US), Europe and Asia.
One thing that I've learned is that it's important to keep an open mind, to look at the good things in a given society/culture and to not be overly judgmental. It's important to not frame thing in terms of expectations from another environment.
That being said there are limits to everything. Looking at the trajectory of American society, it is not unreasonable to speculate that their march towards a chauvinistic, corrupt plutocracy is not going to stop.
I would love to be wrong (it's a disaster that the US has essentially turned into a mafia state), but to deny reality is the definition of cope.
"Comment above" referring to our ancestor comment, not yours. That comment just strives to paint a starkly black and white image, because black and white certainty (even if it's wrong) serves the emotional needs of the poster. It does not offer any practical value against the slide into autocracy. It only makes things worse. Everyone should keep their coping to themselves, cope privately, and not inflict it upon others. We need to conserve our common spaces for better forms of thought.
I misunderstood. Apologies.
While I agree that a black and white approach isn't exactly accurate, you can get to a point where the situation becomes close enough to black/white as a matter of practical considerations (i.e. outcomes). Again, not something specific to the US, it can and does happen everywhere.
I am still clinging to the hope that the Americans will turn things around (i.e. no Obama "hope and change" while avoiding addressing crime and corruption), but it's becoming increasingly difficult.
And claiming that the overwhelming majority of the US far right is incapable of empathy (or that they are fundamentally supportive of crime and corruption) isn't factually incorrect to my knowledge.
Everyone (*) is capable of empathy. You decide not to have empathy for vulnerable individuals suffering actual atrocity three times a day when you decide to visit cruelty and violence on them on the way to your plate. When was the last time you shed a tear? Cuz it fucked me up pretty bad just this morning. Do you have no empathy? Of course you do. You just choose not to use it.
You are correct, it's a choice. But no one (IMO even the thread OP) is arguing there is a physiologic reason for the lack of empathy. It's shorthand for saying they choose not to show empathy and this won't change any time soon (i.e. definitely not in the next 20-30 years).
Look, I am probably more on your side than our conversation would suggest, but I cannot imagine any realistic scenario of positive developments in American society. Can you? If yes, what is this scenario?
Oh god you're still ball tucking to other people.
Hey please drop the bullshit "holier than thou" narrative.
You're pathetic and rather try to hold hands with Nazis than stand up to them. How very Nevillle Chamberlain of you.
And actually it is quite black and white.
There is zero nuance to mass kidnappings of brown people by white supremachists. Its indisputably evil.
There's zero nuance to destabilizing a developing nation for the purposes of your rich buddies raping it for resources. Its indisputably evil.
There's zero nuance to threatening to annex an ally's territory, again for your rich buddies to rape it for resources. Its indisputably evil.
There's zero nuance to befriending the CEO of elite pedophiles incorporated, and trafficking and raping kids with him for a decade, its indisputably evil.
And there's zero nuance to gleefully and openly supporting genocide, foreign nor domestic. Its indisputably evil.
The fact you can't the black and white nature of the evil of these crimes shows you are fundamentally morally bankrupt, intellectually barren, and untrustworthy with even the most basic and fundamental critical analysis of any serious situation.
Sit this one out, Jr. The adults don't have time to make kids like you feel better about their insecurities.
cope harder, but i'm not gonna read it chuckles
Its ok, I'll summarize:
You're a colossal pussy and know nothing about politics, let alone reality.