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Only problem I can see if they play that card, there’s a pretty good chance the US population responds by burrowing further up its own ass. Eventually, you have a very well armed rogue state (assuming we don’t already have one just yet).
So let’s continue with the appeasement policy. Worked great last time…
Not saying that’s what they should do at all. Look at my comment history. The guy is a bully and absolutely should be treated as such.
how long can an army obbey orders if they are not paid?
Not very long.
That’s a fair point, but who says the current army will remain the army? I bet there are plenty of “patriots” in this country who would happily step up for free.
They have to eat. They need to buy guns, gear, ammo... an army is expensive af.
An army of "free patriots" will last more or less a couple of months if lucky before they realize they need money to eat.
These are all well thought arguments, which makes me somewhat more convinced dear leader would try to do this! Not much of a planner, that one. Besides, in his mind we would be taking what we need. And other countries would be paying for it. You know, like his other boondoggles.
That money will come out of Musk's and other billionaires' pockets. They've been dreaming of the day they get to buy their own armies, beholden only to them.
High doubt. Musk and other billionaires don't have that money. They have shares of companies that are worth a lot... today.
They are rich, they do have money, a lot. But most of it comes from those shares. Is tesla's shares drop to near 0 value, musk will have shit.
Also, the us can't make any primary goods on their own. Whose iron are they gonna buy? Whose aluminium? Rare earths? Hell, even the oil will be a problem. Not to talk about electronics; do you think china won't take taiwan if all this happens?
A trained and organized army, even a small one, would absolutely mop the floor with a bunch of meal team sixers who care more about their own righteous indignation than on actually accomplishing objectives.
Indeed, Hatred is practically the fiat currency of the GOP.
The US population that would burrow further, will burrow further no matter what Europe does. They're in a self-destructive cycle that requires no outside catalysts at this point.
The other half of the population would invariably be hurt alongside them, but I don't think they'd suddenly turn and see Europe as the bad guy. Some of them would probably consider exercising jus sanguinis claims to European nationality, no matter how flimsy, in an attempt to leave their crumbling economy and fascistic government.
If Europe thinks this will merely be another American Civil War, localized to some far away hemisphere, I ask that they consider whether the situation more closely parallels World War II. There may come a day where the US attacks a NATO ally like Canada, triggering an Article 5 response. A Barbarossa in 2 years time, a D-Day in 4.
Bit hard to imagine a direct world war between nuclear powers.