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Many democrats are on our side. Historically, traditionally the DNC AKA leadership absolutely isn't. There have been some changes in recent history. And that's good. But till there's enough history to plot out a new pattern of behavior. We'd be fools to treat them as if they changed.
The biggest problem with the Democratic party for decades has been that they're serving two masters. Lip-service to the voters to try and get their neoliberal candidates in office. But legislating largely for the major donors that took over funding the party once Reagan broke the unions. The DNC talks the talk. But atm are unable to walk the walk. I hope that changes soon. With each death and retirement, things look a little better for them.
Well I want people on my side who actually DO something.
You can be on my side all you want, but unless you're just marching with us, I want you to have some fucking balls and political capital if you're going to fight for me on a policy level.
Everyone does. AOC and Mamdani literally are marching with us. It's largely leadership that keeps anything from getting done or changing. Blame them.
we are? leadership is the dnc.
I agree. We largely agree. So I'm not sure what the disagreement is.
THEY ARE THE LEADERSHIP
Christ it's like the right still talking about the "Deep state" when they are deeper in the state than an Alabama hog farmer and his prize sow. Nah fam I am done playing the shell-game of accountability.
Dem "leadership" does nothing but field candidates they know will lose, and write stern letters to the people funding death squads. They are ineffectual because they don't want to win. I don't even care if I'm painting the whole party with too broad a brush, because whoever is in there still on our side don't seem to have the power or will to go against their party in any meaningful capacity.
Flush the toilet, sink the turds, fill the bowl with new turds and lets see if they sink or float.
The DNC does have a new Chairman.
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They have one of the strongest mandates imaginable, the popularity of this president and ICE and our "foreign policy" if you want to call it that are some of the most unpopular, openly reviled federal actions and policies ever undertaken in this country. The democrats could capitalize on this with great fury and show the power of the people is a stronger source of political capital than a small segment of armed nuts who prop up the current Trumpist GOP.
Dems are rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
AOC and Mamdani are leadership? Did anyone tell them or the DNC that?
The closest we're getting to a shell game here is painting with a broad brush and lumping them all into one shell. You're never going to get the old guard out if you continue to make enemies of the ones actually working to do it.
Who's talking about Mamdani, Mamdani is the model of what we want, he is a representation of broad-scale, grassroots campaigning and electoral reform. But he's not a leader of our federal system, he's a mayor. But we need a lot more of what we did in New York across the whole country so that when we do get new leaders, they are supported on a state level.
For the rest of the incumbents in power, they ARE leaders of our country, and I hold them to a higher standard. I don't support their genocide enabling, stern-letter-writing, lack of capitalization on their platform and complete fealty to the wealthy. They ARE my fucking enemy. FLUSH THEM ALL.
I was. Literally what I was talking about in the post you replied to before this. Did you reply to the wrong person?
Maybe I don't understand what you're promoting, but I have to push back on any support for our current Democratic leadership, they are worse than Republicans, they are worse in every way because they are supposed to be our opposition and are secretly conspiring. At least the right sometimes believe what they're promoting because they're stupid.
We can fix stupid, we can't fix evil.
Oh absolutely. If I've been unclear about anything. Absolutely fuck the DNC and it's leadership.
Yeah, like three of them.
And the rest are fighting harder to stop Democrats who actually are on our side than they are against fascists: people like Mamdani and Platner.
Yep, but thankfully it looks like Mamdani and Platner might be changing the equation. Fingers crossed.
Platner could easily be Fetterman v2.
Absolutely possible, though, less likely. He at least seems to show some introspection and ability to learn. But you're not wrong to be wary of him considering his past stances.
They're not enough, not on their own. It's a signal sure, but it's a signal that DNC has to fight harder to preserve their power and status-quo, so they will fight harder to both squash up-and-coming leftist leaders as well as reform their image to pretend to be working towards social change.
Actual progressives are not compatible with the current Dem party, the old-guard has the political capital of old money and plenty of donors who work across the aisle, the dems just have the "soft populist" presentation where the GOP has the "hard power" presentation, but they both serve the same masters.
If we want new Mamdani's and the like to rise to power we have to flush this entire Democrat party in congress and senate. I don't trust any of them, I don't care if good people are caught in the wash, we will do better in this case with the devil we don't know.
No one said they were. It's a start. Not the end game.
Like AOC and Fetterman?
I really hope you're not comparing AOC to Fetterman.
Fetterman was always shit. Long before he was elected. Still better than memeht oz. But yes, AOC has significantly pushed back against neoliberal leadership. Not perfect by any means. But some small hope for future improvement as more like her get elected.