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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I have a feeling we'll have much easier time getting Chinese manufacturers to comply with disabling telemetry for our market without being hit with sanctions than US.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That is highly doubtful. The challenges would be different but I'm skeptical it would be any easier.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

I'm saying that because It's how most manufacturing of western electronics works. We tell the Chinese manufacturer what to enable and what not to enable. Then we check (or don't) and we sell it domestically.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's true too. I actually use a Chinese brand of phone, because guess what, most of the Western brands are locked down.

Obviously there's exceptions like FairPhone, and there's rumors Chinese silicon gets messed with. We don't need them to pinky swear to anything we can verify, though. We just need them to agree, and unlike somebody they're pragmatic enough to do so.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

That's right.

I started using a Fairphone recently actually. It's an EU brand, sure, but the device and software is designed and made by T2 Mobile of Shanghai. So it's essentially the same deal - Fairphone says "we want no telemetry" and T2 Mobile says "okay" and disables it. Behind all the pretences most brands work like this. Whether it's only hardware, or software and hardware, or some mix, it all ultimately hinges on the Chinese supplier being pragmatic and doing what they were asked to do.

From Fairphone themselves:

This is the source tree from our hardware and software supplier T2Mobile.

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