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[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 182 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess they didn’t watch any other part of the movies where all those tube people live in our regular world holding jobs and paying rent

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 141 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah but its the 90s. At that time, my oma bought a house in a nice neighborhood and set up a retirement plan on an American teachers salary. In the south.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Wasn't that explicitly mentioned in the film, that that is the best time in civilization?

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The height of our civilization, is what he says. I think.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization. I say "your" civilization, because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became "our" civilization, which is of course what this is all about.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please tell us more Mr Smith.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago

Damn his voice is so great. You gotta hear rather than simply read it.:-)

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] froh42@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Me in 1999: Haha, good joke, things will get even better.

Me in 2026: Damn, how right they were.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't it be the same Zion? Pretty sure the one in the Matrix got its name from the Jewish/Christian one. And I believe it even is meant as an allegory for Jerusalem.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 22 hours ago

Yeah. That was the awkward joke I was going for.

lol yeah not that one. The one in the deep deep south.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, not the best time, just the last time in humans where actually in charge before everything started to be controlled by machines.

[–] jamie_veal@feddit.org 4 points 16 hours ago

IIRC the architect in part 2 even said that they tried to make the matrix a paradise, but that would make its inhabitants more suspicious, leading to a faster collapse of the fake reality.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 23 points 1 day ago

Yep. I'd take 90s adulthood over this shit.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nah, guys, the machines totally tried to make it a utopia and it, uh, just didn't take. Ya gotta work til you die, the abundance of resources is unconnected. Stop asking questions.

[–] Postimo@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would take them at their word for that. If they made some sort of hyper real super pleasure heaven of pure bliss the tendency towards betterment would drive humans insane. Maybe once that failed there were just like 'these fuckers are a mess, just dupe back when they thought they were happy and call it good.'

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 2 points 16 hours ago

These monkes love conflict an struggle more than they admit. Make them suffer just enough so they don’t wake up.