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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

People want concrete policy, economic fixes, and the end of culture war shit.

This is your conclusion after the fucking country elected that fucker? No, Americans don’t give a shit about any of that. People on Lemmy want that.

Americans want shit flinging, grudge based, reality show style fights. I don’t know that Kelly is enough of an asshole to be honest.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, it's how Mamdani won in New York.

Most people with limited political savvy heard Trump talk about the economy when Harris said she wanted to keep things as they are. And everything got fucked under Biden, but things were good under Trump, right? Let's go back to that. Plus he was funny.

There is a dedicated group of shitheads that support everything the Republicans shit out, but they're by-and-large not the majority in most places.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago

Honestly, I hope you are right. At the moment though, I have very little faith in the American electorate.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I dont get it either. The reds will be out in force for whatever reason. They dont care aboutbpolicy. They just vote. The opposition seems to want to be presented with ideal choices and want to hold out until they get it, country be damned.

Its why even pro fighters are wary of street brawlers - the rules dont matter. Play by them, or expect rabid dogs to abide by them, and you lose. Every time.

Oh, but you get to go home and be smug about not stooping to their level.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The opposition seems to want to be presented with ideal choices

That's exactly what people want. They're sick and tired of these half-ass politicians so they seek out candidates who will actually stand for something. The strategy of big tent politics failed Kamala's campaign.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In any other election (barring 2024, which got us here), id be all in for this. But right now, theres a criminal in the white house wrecking the country, and deatroying your rights, and it seems to me that the voters cant be arsed to turn out because 'huh, no ideal choices'.

Their kobayashi maru solution would be to do nothing because the outcome would be the same - failure, only the consequences of this failure would be to learn klingon. Thats not strength. Thats a guy who uses the wrong weapon for the wrong war.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You could say the exact same thing in 2020, 2016, 2004, 2000...

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. Look how those turned out.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Put a fascist in the White House twice while favorability of the Democratic party is at an all-time low.

That's how it turned out.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Voting in another party would have sent a stronger message. To both parties. But yeah. Hold your paper signs and enjoy your corner of fascism.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like I said all the blame rests on the shoulders of people like you who continue to enable a weak and unpopular Democratic party. Why else do you think people voted for both Trump and Mamdani?

Enjoy watching your party leaders deliver strongly worded letters!

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Glad to see youre part of the 'solution' then. Keep blaming the leaders and waiting for your 'strong' party. Dont mind the don. Hes just wrecking rhe country in the meantime.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would I be part of a solution of a problem that you and your party created? Besides as it's evident from this debate you don't even want our solution.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Given the current circumstances, i think it fails to address the immediate need. But i also understand that, unlike in some other countries, that anericans live in relative comfort, want to preserve that comfort, and that the level of pain hasnt ratcheted to the point where the solution becomes obvious - that sometimes we do what is necessary, instead of what is expedient, convenient, safe, or ideal.

In flight school, they are trained to aviate, navigate, communicate. Your group seems to want to negotiate and blame (communicate), without first staunching the blood loss (aviate). Its ass backwards and the result of gradually letting idiots into power by ignoring the midterms. But you do you. Dont blame others for pointing out your shortcomings. And certainly dont have the voters blame the politicians for decisions they chose to make.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Save me the flight school bullshit talk

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, its quite clear from your response that this isnt a good faith debate at all. Have a good day.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 month ago

And you were? Talking about flight school lmao