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Shut it down! The US is better off with no government than with the one it has | Judith Levine
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 30 Jan 2026
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While my theory is based on various sci-fi so should be taken with a mine of salt, my guess is that USA will split into three different countries: NUSA (lol Cyberpunk) which will comprise of the original 13 colony states and the upper North East, The California Republic which will essentially be the West and NW and in good relations with NUSA but with different legislature, and the South which might be called anything from Texas, New Texas, Republic of Texas, or New Louisiana Territory, which will essentially be a war-torn area full of religious extremists not unlike Middle-Eastern areas after the West had their way with them. It will be full of forever wars by religious factions funded by the MIC shareholders of various other countries but in the public face it'll be covered by the media as religious extremism and/or patriotic fanaticism while ignoring the material reality and history of the situation.
The south could bring slavery and cousin/sister shagging back like they have always wanted. I say let them have their theocracy. We build a wall around the enture south and make it into a reality tv show for the world. and, profit.
When season 45 ends we can then just give whatever rubble is left to cuba to figure out.
That's just the plot from escape from new York.
In the American Civil War the North had the advantage in Navy, population, wealth, and industrial power.
Now those advantages in population and industrial capacity are flipped. In the scenario you project the south could devolve into infighting and hollow out, but a single charismatic figure could unite them, and that would pose a terrible threat to the NEUSA and the Cali Republic. Have you read Rurtledove's American Front?
I have not read that, no. I have heard of the series before though.
Does the South really have those things flipped? Does the South really have more of a population that the East and West coasts combined? More land area sure, but aren't they currently at the economic mercy of the East and West coasts?
The red states are net takers compared to federal. Taxes paid. In this hypothetical civil conflict all sides are materially worse off but the south would be worst by a margin. Material deprivation by the general populace can end a war, but it doesn't always.
See Russia in Ukraine for an example.
Where the lines are matters, whether Ohio and Michigan are in the NEUS or the south makes a big difference in population and industry.
The south would collapse so fast lol what
It really depends on what type of war this hypothetical civil war would be, and who would be included in each side. North Dakota has nukes, is in the North, but also is very conservative. Opposite scenario for New Mexico
Realistically, a conventional war isn't possible these days. In digital warfare, tech hubs like NYC, DC, Cali, and Washington become the most important locations