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[–] tyler@programming.dev 7 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

It’s terrible. They’ve had years and years to get their shit together and they still can’t. It’s just horrendously bad.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I use it all the time. There are many mature clients, and matrix is a protocol, so I don’t know what you mean. Since the sliding sync implementations, I have found it really nice to use.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Don’t know what to tell you. I’m literally unable to read messages sent to me, they all show up as “unable to decrypt”. If I can’t even use the damn protocol then how many clients it has doesn’t matter.

And I have tried different clients.

And as far as I’ve read, this “unable to decrypt” affects a lot of users.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

What server are you using and with which client most recently? It sounds like your device is unverified so untrusted or the key isn’t present.

To expand, “unable to decrypt” would affect a lot of users. That’s a good thing and exactly what you want it to do when not correctly trusted.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm using the default matrix server and I've tried with Element and FluffyChat. I've never used a different device to access Matrix. It has always been Firefox through Element, and then when that stopped working I switched to try to use FluffyChat which also did not work.

To expand, “unable to decrypt” would affect a lot of users. That’s a good thing and exactly what you want it to do when not correctly trusted.

No, you do not want this affecting every user who has done nothing to change their environment. The device is still trusted, else I wouldn't be able to sign in and get new messages at all. Here's a massive list detailing many of the ways this can happen and note that this goes back to 2022. So for 4 years now they've had numerous issues with thousands of users being able to decrypt messages sent on the only device they've ever used and it still isn't fixed.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe I came off as dismissive or just stupid, but I really did mean to be helpful. Of course you don’t want users experience bad interactions. I meant if those interactions were for an actual intended reason. So yeah, never mind.

Bummer you’ve had a hard time. I think they and the free software community are trying to put together a good solution.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Sorry, clearly I responded too harshly. Honestly I'm just tired of the suggestions to use Matrix, when myself (and several other people I know personally) have constant issues with it. I've tried to use Matrix for over 3 years now and I am required to use it sometimes, but every time I'm incredibly frustrated.

I think they and the free software community are trying to put together a good solution.

I agree, and I do think we need that, but sometimes the focus should be on usability before security. I know how much that sucks, but if you look at Lemmy you see the same thing. The focus was on usability first. Security came later, because (honestly) security is kinda pointless when every user can set up their own instance and intercept any posts they want. We'll get there eventually with security, but if people aren't using your platform then security is pointless.

[–] Willoughby@piefed.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

they

Your server, not mine, homie. Shop around for a better admin who actually knows how to install the thing.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

So the Matrix developers/creators don’t know how to actually install the thing then? lol not a good response homie.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Agreed, Matrix works fine as a toy, but it breaks down after a year or two with even a moderate amount of chat.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

For me it broke down the second I started using it. I literally am unable to see chats on the only device I’ve ever used to access matrix, they’re all “can’t be decrypted”.