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A literal steaming pile of dog shit would be better than our current situation. Let's dig ourselves out of the ground before we start reaching for the stars
While you do that AIPAC is ensuring that your 2028 option will be Newsom and Rahm Emanuel or someone else they hand pick. That way they win no matter what happens and Americans remain pay pigs for genocide.
I'm not your enemy bud, you don't have to be mad at me. We likely agree on almost everything. The fascists are winning right now because they don't bicker over piddly shit, we need to start doing the same.
The fascists are winning because they aren’t normal establishment politicians, at least to the uninformed. They are “different” and that is what people want, anything other than the status quo. It’s how fascists have always gained power. They exist, because otherwise there is functionally a vacuum, a government that ignores people’s demands for help.
You don’t hold back fascism. And you certainly don’t hold it back with ineffective “centrism”. You push it back with a greater opposing force. You push it down to the ground. Then you stomp its face in until it is no longer breathing. You pounce on it when it is at its weakest. You kill it. You excise it like the cancer it is. You eliminate it quickly, decisively, permanently. Or you die. Simple as that, man.
That is exactly what I'm saying though, perhaps with less colorful language. We're not in disagreement.
Yes, keep going to the right.
Hey, buddy? Shut the fuck up.
The US is in the mess because of worthless people like you who get angry at anyone who hopes for more. People say “hey can we not do better than complete garbage?” and you feel the need to tell them that they’re wrong. Gavin Newsom will not dig you out of the hole you’re in, nor will any other center-right corporate stooge.
I say this with my whole heart: I hate you.
You've assumed a lot about my position that is untrue, all I'm pointing out is that the conservatives are winning because they are willing to line up behind complete garbage. If the progressives want to make real change, they have to be willing to rally, and that will likely mean rallying behind a non ideal candidate, and likely rallying with those that we feel are amoral.
I say this with my whole heart: I don't hate you, and I hope we can win this fight, together.
The working class rallying behind less than we deserve is how we got Trump. He didn’t emerge from nowhere. He’s a product of multiple presidents, Dems & GOP, who did not serve the American people. He easily fooled those who believed he’d do more because we’re all so conditioned to expect nothing. We need to do better than just picking the lesser of two evils every 4 years. We need to rally together, yes, but behind higher standards - not behind more politicians who are deeply lacking. Class consciousness and collective action is the only way to do this.
It’s always the progressives who need to rally behind the centrist, isn’t it? Never the other way around because you’re just a coward.
How about you grow even an inch of a spine and rally behind someone who wants to make real change? How about you stop spending you life on this planet being nothing more than a barrier? Get it together.
I really don’t give a damn whether you hate me or not, your opinion is worthless. You don’t know the first fucking thing about togetherness, just empty platitudes that make you comfortable so you don’t need to actually face anything difficult.
Again, you're replying to what you think I said, not what I actually said. I agree with you, we're on the same side.
Love you, hope you realize this infighting in only helping the fascists.
It's people like you that need to realize that in the current political environment, establishment Dems have zero electability.
Get behind a progressive candidate or expect to lose again.
I do get behind progressive candidates, I offer zero support to Newsom at this time, but I realize that no matter how hard I support my favorite progressives, there is no gaurentee they'll win.
When it comes to 2028, I don't care much who is against the MAGA candidate, I'll almost certainly vote for them.
If I had a button on my desk that immediately swapped Trump for Newsom, I'd press it in a heartbeat, not because I think Newsom is a "good guy" or even that he'd be do the right thing. But rather because everything we can do to stem the tide of fascism is a good thing.
Expect that is also the logic dems/dnc have used that got us to this point.
you have to vote for Kerry or else we still have Bush
vote for Hillary she's the only one who is qualified to beat the rnc - when running against Obama
vote for Hillary she's not trump - 2016
primary voters vote for Biden he's the only one who can beat Trump, we can't let Bernie have a shot - 2020
vote for Kamala, what do you want trump again??
That's basically the point I'm making? So I think one of both of us is confused.
Woooosh
FYI sadly this is an unpopular opinion for users of lemmy world. While they are willing to admit Trump is bad most can't stomach admitting how much the dems have a hand in us getting to this point, let alone how little they care about preventing it or doing anything to improve the situation
It’s also not just the US. In Canada we are constantly told that we must stop dreaming about electing our main progressive party and that we must rally around the increasingly conservative centrist party. Centrists demand sacrifice but refuse to ever give anything in return. They are cowardly obstacles, not serious people.
Our last election saw the NDP lose official party status because of a lack of votes, the Conservatives are still highly supported and will get in eventually when they’re even crazier, and the Liberals we elected are the most conservative they’ve even been down to letting private companies steal our natural resources with fewer consequences all while helping ones like Air Canada by trying to declare the flight attendant strike illegal. People said our prime minister being a banker would help us this economy but he shown that he would rather weaken the average citizen than help them.
At least right-wingers spew their hate with their whole chest. Centrists are just cowards, nothing more.