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“The bottom line is this: Donald Trump is setting new records for himself in term No. 2, setting new records for himself compared to where he was at this time in term No. 1. And he is doing worse than Biden, which is of course a comparison that Donald Trump does not want to be because we all know what happened to Joe Biden,” noted Enten after running through the numbers.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Proposing running better candidates isn’t the same as ‘genocide joe’ was objectively worse and did x/y/z things that means the D’s are bad compared even to the current situation

If we ran a better candidate...

Then people wouldn't be saying that stuff about them.

Like, those people weren't the reason Biden lost. They were trying desperately to warn everyone that Biden was going to lose.

And a big part of why Kamala lost is she didn't understand that and thought people personally didn't like Biden, so she literally and repeatedly said she'd have made all the same decisions as Biden.

Like, you do get that right?

If a women says a wound is infected and without amputation the patient will die, if the patient refuses amputation and dies, it doesn't mean we burn the medicine woman as a witch for killing him.

It means next time we should listen to her when she warns us, because she was right.

All youre worried about, is burning the witch because that makes you feel like you solved the problem and are preventing it. But you're not, so you're gonna keep burning innocent's and genuinely believing your the solution and not the one ensuring people keep dying of infections.

You're just causing even more damage.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And a big part of why Kamala lost is

People don't understand how voting between two candidates works.

Like, you do get that right?

Ironic.

[–] jaycifer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I’m sorry, but I don’t follow how their comment on Kamala Harris losing displays a lack of understanding on voting between two candidates.

My understanding is that in such an elections people either vote for one, the other, or abstain. They vote for one over the other because they either like the one enough or dislike the other enough. They abstain when they don’t feel strongly about either. Does that sound right to you?

My understanding of what the person you responded to said is essentially that people didn’t like Biden because of his policy and were on track to abstain because they didn’t dislike (or weren’t worried about) Trump enough. Harris wrongly thought people disliked Biden personally but did like his policy, so stayed that course. That led to people not liking her and therefore abstaining while Trump riled up his base that for some reason liked him.

What am I missing here?

[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I would be more inclined to view it as she's actively trying to dissuade people from helping the patient that everyone knows is sick.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I would be more inclined to view it as she’s actively trying to dissuade people from helping the patient that everyone knows is sick.

I think the issue is you're saying "she" meaning Hillary or Kamala...

Meaning that because I used the example of a medicine woman/witch, you seem to have assumed it represented Hillary/Kamala just because it's a woman.

Is that what happened?

[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No, I'm using 'she' in the context of the medicine woman in your story, or more simply, those continually suggesting non-support for the Democrat party because of their failings. The math of our system allows for two parties at most in the sense of presidential elections.

Rather than seeking to push people away from the D's it would be a far more beneficial thing to work to implement local and state level rank choice or similar system votes. Until that happens it's a choice of 2 options, and one, while dull and stagnant, is leagues ahead of the other in terms of treating the population with some level of civility and dignity.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

those continually suggesting non-support for the Democrat party because of their failings.

That may be the confusion...

Because absolutely no one had said anything Bout that till now...

Rather than seeking to push people away from the D’s

No one's doing that either.

Hillary/Kamala are not the party.

Neoliberals are not the party.

None of them have any political power anymore, especially not at the DNC.