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Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) on Monday said he will not be intimidated by the Pentagon’s investigation into “serious allegations of misconduct” against him after he called for U.S. military service members to disobey any illegal orders handed down by the Trump administration.

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth earlier in the day announced the Pentagon would conduct a “thorough review” of allegations against the Arizona senator, who was one of six Democratic lawmakers who appeared in a video that infuriated the Trump administration.

Kelly, a retired Navy captain, pointed to his lengthy military career and disputed that he did anything to merit the review.

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[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 71 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Good. Stand your fucking ground.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dude is a retired Navy Captain.

He hardly needs to be told this.

[–] Blade9732@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Not just a Captain, but a god-damned American hero. He flew dozens of combat missions in Iraq, has the distinguished flying cross and more medals and awards than "punch bowl" Pete can even imagine. He went on to be a Navy test pilot and then to NASA as an astronaut and eventually mission commander of a space shuttle mission. Mark and his twin brother Scott,(also an astronaut) have performed important science in space and on earth, benefiting all man kind.

[–] PhatalFlaw@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There is no truer definition of "American Hero" than Mark Kelly. For the administration to go after him is wild. Media should be all over this one as a bullshit investigation, and I hope this blows up in their faces.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Pfft, it's not like he's one of a kind.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

How does killing Iraqis make him a hero?

Kelly is fine, but American hero for being in Iraq? Yeah, no.

[–] Blade9732@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Killing anyone sucks, and in some sort of fairy tale land, we wouldn't need to. Captain Kelly was a pilot of an A6 Intruder (low and slow old jet from the 60's) during the first Gulf war. That war started when an autocratic leader decided to invade his smaller neighbor that he owned money to, after a seven year slog trying to kill his other neighbor (Iran). Saddam used mustard gas on Iran, his own people and was trying to murder any Kuwaiti he could get his hands on. Kuwait had a defense treaty with the US, and that was back when we didn't bail on treaties like with the Orange Cheeto. Then President Bush (the father) did not invade Iraq, attempt regime change, or wholesale bomb civilian areas. Don't get me wrong, Bush Sr. Was a shitheel and the weasel son of another rich asshole, but removing Iraq from Kuwait was justified and did not toss out international law through lying and manipulation like the second Iraq war.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like POTUS material

[–] joker125@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Certainly more qualified than the president bone spurs

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 3 points 9 months ago

Okay, hear me out:

Comey, Kelley, Bolton, James, and the rest of DJT's persecuted political opponents form an anti-corruption party to rebuild and reform

[–] ArenaCops@infosec.exchange 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

@MicroWave U.S. defense shouldn't be in the hands of ignorant psychopathic former Fox TV chickenshit talkers.

[–] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 9 months ago

you mean the Secretary of War-mongering??

[–] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 9 months ago

Leave our duly-elected defenders of democracy alone!

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So is the message here that the government is investigating Sen Kelly because they disagree with what he said? Soldiers.... Should?.... Follow illegal orders? Are we this deep into fascism already?

[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately yes. In another post someone asked "what's to stop Trump bombing Chicago?". The only real answer is American service members all the way down the chain of command disobeying the blatantly illegal order to bomb Chicago.

At the end of it all, political power really rests in who has the biggest stick, and the biggest stick in the world is the US military.

If the military is beholden to Trump, then he has his kingship, if they honor their oath to the constitution, he doesn't.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

It's all made out of fucking Popsicle sticks.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So as a country we're okay with our elected officials being censored by the government?

I just want to hear someone say that. Because I'm not.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Just look at Trump's approval ratings. That's your answer.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hope Kelly leads the revolution

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

He knows he's on the right side of the law, and the right side of history.