"If Clinton, Obama, Biden, Chomsky, or anyone else is in the Epstein-files I want to know so they can be held accountable.
Release the Epstein-files without redactions."
this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2025
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As somebody else posted "I don't care if Bob Ross, Steve Irwin, Mr. Rogers, Paul Rudd, Tom Hanks and Keanu Reeves are in there. I still want it released and them brought to justice."
Put a finer point on it. If anyone I have shred of respect for is on the list, then I WANT to know. Why would I want to continue to support someone that’s on the list?
If there’s someone I could almost assuredly say is not in the files is Obama. You see the way that man still looks at his wife? With as much lust as when trump looks at Ivanka. Clinton? Oh almost certainly in there. Probably second to trump, toss em both in the same cell.
As I've said before, this messaging feels good to read if you're on the left, because broadly we care a lot about intellectual and ideological consistency. To a fault.
The right doesn't just glaze past it because it requires reading comprehension, they fundamentally do not get it. Their entire identity is based around the cognitive dissonance of the spectacle of the WWE theater, so when you say that the team score doesn't matter, all you're saying in their minds is "I am not playing your game" and they immediately dismiss you the same way 14-year-old Kyle stopped inviting you over to watch wrestling on Saturdays because you always told him it's scripted. You are ruining his fun and you don't "get it" so you're not a factor anymore.
I'm not saying don't post these messages on liberal and right-leaning hangouts and social media, it still will connect with some margin of people, but whatever you're expecting or hoping it will accomplish is entirely self-serving. If we really, really wanted to change them and make them start aligning with truth, we have to change their emotional narratives, not dismissing them. You can do this, it just takes more direct interaction and being more involved and social. You can't change them as a group, but as individuals they are extremely insecure and even if they seem hostile, they want your approval on some level and this fact can be leveraged if you're clever and unafraid.
You can do this, it just takes more direct interaction and being more involved and social.
I'm old and gen-x. I hail from the time of no gay marriage and unintegrated schools. My generation was born while interracial marriage was still not federally legal.
The same people who are maga now have been spreading the same kind of hatred for decades. The first time it impacted me personally was when I had the audacity to play D&D as a teen while living in the bible belt. There's a personality type (or three) that is a throughline across the entire span of my life, no matter where I've lived, no matter which decade we're talking about, that is exactly the sort of person who is now a maga. I would bet that I could reliably tell you which people I haven't spoken to in twenty years are maga now to a high degree of accuracy.
If we really, really wanted to change them and make them start aligning with truth, we have to change their emotional narratives, not dismissing them.
I've had a lifetime of dealing with these exact same people, either talking with them, arguing with them, or being targeted by them. The social changes conservatives were pushing for (or resisting) in 1988 are entirely compatible with what Trump is doing now, and I don't for one moment believe that any larger fraction of them would have resisted him back then than have now. We have landed exactly where they were always driving us, they were just being more polite and cagey about it most of the time.
I'm years into dismissing them, and that ain't changing. They can wallow in their own ignorance and hate. They already put modern hitler in power, and he ain't ever leaving except in cuffs or a box, so what is the high water mark I'm trying to prevent now? Let them ride the wreckage they have created into the ground with the rest of us. I'm not going to hold their hand on the way down.
Edit:
Side-note: Look, I'm not even going to draw any conclusions from this, you can do it yourself.
I'm not saying it's not bad out there, but I have a lot of skin in the game and refuse to be a victim, I have changed people's attitudes and will continue to do so. I fully understand when someone says they're burnt out though.
I totally respect you for that. 🙂
But, FWIW, I don't look at my refusal to engage with them as being a victim (though I admit in reality I'll be among the last group in Trump's camps unless he locks people up for rhetoric - and also that may not have been what you meant), I look at it as standing on my right to not allow toxicity in my life.
When I was a wimpy kid I didn't have a choice. Now I'm an I-don't-give-a-fuck middle aged man, and I very much enjoy controlling who gets my attention and time. I find it supremely liberating. :)
Noah Chomsky is in Epstein list
Cool, so let’s see the fucking files.
*Noam.
And?
Something about owning the left
Agreed.
Burn them all down.