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[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.world 124 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So spotify has stolen their music. We have the technology to do anything we want, but someone needs to pay for it. Billionaires are holding us back. Billionaires are choosing not to end hunger or poverty. Remember that: rich people are choosing not to end hunger, homeless, or poverty. In fact, the rich are making it worse.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 66 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So gross. I'm not going back to Spotify.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 63 points 9 months ago

But given the AI imitations that are still invading Release Radar and Discover Weekly playlists, which the company prominently recommends to its users

This is the turbo-shitty part of the whole thing.

Facebook do this as well; they act like they've got too many users to police everything that gets uploaded, and you could almost believe them on that, but they sure as fuck have the resources to be able to police what they're choosing to boost.

They're choosing not to do that, because The Algorithm is highly tuned around "how many dollars can we make next month" and they'd rather use that as their metric.

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 54 points 9 months ago

Recently read Spotify is running ads for the USA gestapo.

Fully unsubbed/deleted same day. Hell to the no.

[–] LaMouette@jlai.lu 52 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did you know that in the US you can copy spotify AI knockoff and sell them ? As it is not human produced, they are not protected by IP laws 🤭

[–] ThefuzzyFurryComrade@pawb.social 6 points 8 months ago

Problem is that because they are not human produced they are worthless.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Spotify is an advertising platform, first and foremost. They don't give a fuck about music or artists.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I used Spotify super early and it's crazy how anti consumer and musicians they are, or became. Every now and then they smuggled in some ads and every time it was like: omg what a weird glitch. Podcasts, you would still hear their stupid ads. Oh well, then they suddenly injected ads into podcasts, wait, why do i pay for ads now? Seriously they deserve to go under.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

I had a few support cases open with them when I open Spotify and get full screen ads about podcast and they spin it all "oh no. That's not an ad that's a recommendation!"

I don't use Spotify for podcasts, full stop, I had how I have to switch it from "all" to "music" on the home page. So dumb.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Kind Gizzard can still drop albums faster than AI.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Have they beaten Buckethead yet?

In 2011, Buckethead began releasing albums in the "Pike" series, mini-albums usually around 30 minutes in length, each with a sequential number similar to a comic book. As of October 2024, Buckethead has released 662 Pike albums, including almost 300 live recordings.

These seem to be him jamming straight onto the record.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Goodness me, not close! King Gizzard are certainly prolific but not on that scale!

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That is illegal in germany. So i wonder how that now works

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If anything, Germany is one country where this would actually be legal...

Wenn das Original bereits veröffentlicht wurde und bei einer Verwertungsgesellschaft wie der GEMA registriert ist, bedarf es keiner Erlaubnis des Urhebers, denn diese verwaltet die Nutzungsrechte der registrierten Künstler. Grundsätzlich ist die GEMA allerdings verpflichtet, jedem, der einen urheberrechtlich geschützten Song nutzen will, diese Rechte einzuräumen.

Gem. § 11 UrhWahrnG unterliegt die GEMA einem Kontrahierungszwang und dies in doppelter Hinsicht: Auf der einen Seite ist die GEMA ihren Mitgliedern verpflichtet, die ihr übertragenen Rechte wahrzunehmen, auf der anderen Seite ist darüber hinaus in der Pflicht, dem Musiknutzer diese Rechte auf Nachfrage gegen Entgelt einzuräumen. Damit ist das das Covern von verschiedenen Musiktiteln größtenteils erlaubt, auch wenn es einigen Künstlern sicherlich nicht gefallen wird.

https://www.juraforum.de/news/ist-das-covern-von-musik-erlaubt_247126

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No. The GEMA lawsuit in November prohibited training ai on music, or use AI to create or distribute music (atleast from how i understood it)

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Big if true. All those years of shit because of GEMA and now this. Guess a broken clock and so on...

I mean the broken clock is still wrong in this case. Everyone should be able to pirate anything, the issue so far is that only companies get a free pass while individuals get sued into bankruptcy.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Spotify hates musicians. Bandcamp, Tidal if you need Spotify like service.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I still use Pandora. I know they still lowball artist payments (not as bad as Spotify though) but I've never been presented with AI music on there as of yet.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

I know it doesn't matter much, but it pleases me that Spotify isn't getting my money.

[–] dellhiver@sh.itjust.works 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I literally got recommended this AI band as well. Normally I can search: "X band AI" and I get results whether or not they are real.

All I had were 50 pages about the original band leaving Spotify.

I blocked this suspicious sounding band in-case it was AI. Looks like I was right.

Just as a note: earlier this year I stated I'd keep subscribing to Spotify because the recommendations were worth the cost. I was wrong, and I'm slowly starting my transition away.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 8 months ago

I just don't understand anyone wpuld Listen to an AI knockoff of KG when you can find all of their concerts uploaded by their official bootlegger on the archive.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Them pulling out of Spotify was the last push I needed to switch to Tidal. The only downside for me is there was a spotify exclusive cover of Daisy by Wet Leg that you can’t get anywhere else.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

🏴‍☠️

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 8 months ago

I haven't used spotify for years. I never paid for it. I've been buying music (mostly from Bandcamp) and I have no regrets. I try to see bands live when I can, too, and buy a shirt or something.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 8 points 8 months ago

Repulsive.

Also, can't they sue?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I honestly never went to Spotify. I listen to music between YT and Soundcloud most of the time, just about every song you can think of is on there and a lot of indie artists you never heard of, although SoundCloud appears to be getting worse by the day you now need to close 3 popup windows before you're allowed to listen to music without signing in and a lot of the music on there is sped up or has a sharp ping in it to avoid detection algorithms.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago

God I really hate yt music. I fucking miss Google music. It was one of the best players out there.

[–] w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm currently using OpenTune. Works great. What are you guys on?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

musicolet (phone) mediamonkey (desktop)

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

Holy shit I forgot about media monkey. Trying to remember the one I used to use on Linux. Clementine I think? There was a good KDE and GNOME one I remember.

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