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[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

People want a console but also:

  • A wider game library (Missing on Playstation and Xbox)
  • No subscription (missing Playstation and Xbox)
  • a working 10 foot UI (missing in windows)
  • controller os navigation (missing in windows)
  • no bimonthly fullscreen nags to use edge, office365, onedrive, etc. (missing in windows)
  • Working ACPI sleep states. (Missing on most cheap mini PCs)
  • Backwards compatibility for older titles and not needing to rebuy games when upgrading (Missing on PlayStation)

Microsoft could probably build an XBox that fixes the first problem but would probably fill it with nag screens.

People with technical skills can probably run Bazzite on a minipc but might hit issues with sleep depending on luck while purchasing.

People without technical skills just want a package that works

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

People WITH technical skills just wany a package that works. I don't want to fix every single fucking piece of technology I own, constantly - even if I am capable.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly, I would add the emulation part. Steam deck and I bet the box, too, are great for emulation of older games.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 5 points 3 days ago

Well said, I think the library is the biggest point but also a harder sell for someone used to losing a large percentage of their games every generation. They see it as "having to buy their games again" in the short term.

[–] dontsayaword@piefed.social 157 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (37 children)

It's a console for people who like PCs

[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 76 points 4 days ago

And a PC for people who like consoles

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Exactly. I have a PC and a Steam Deck but I'll buy it if the price isn't completely off-putting. It's just perfect for the living room.

[–] jaaake@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's a PC Console for people who DON'T like PCs.

I want one because I don't have a modern PC that can run games. I have a PS5, Switch 2, and a MacBook. I hate windows, I don't want to deal with Linux or assembling a PC from components. I'm missing out on a lot of Steam games that I want to play. I don't want to sit in my office and play games, I want to relax on my couch in my living room and play them.

This is for people like me. There's a lot of us. We're the ones that find piracy too much effort so we keep giving money to streaming services.

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[–] sepi@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

Bro preach. I've been out here doing real linux work on an old panasonic microwave. If you really liked linux, you'd be running it on something with less than 16 MB RAM.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The Steam Machine is the new Commodore 64 or Apple IIe. For one price, it's going to do almost everything just good enough.

If the price isn't ludicrous, it will likely be my default recommendation to anyone asking what PC to get for grandma.

Can she check her email?

Yes.

Can we just hook it to her TV?

Yes.

Can it play some kind of cooking simulation party game with the kids?

Yes.

Okay send me a parts list.

No parts list, just buy one and hook it up.

Okay. How often do I have to buy an OS upgrade?

Those are free.

Which game controllers work with it?

Pretty much all of them, but it probably also comes with one.

This is going to be the stupidly easy answer for casual gamers and casual PC users, as long as it doesn't cost double what either of those would.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ngl price part mainly depends on how much chatbot girlfriend technology is hoarding up everything.

Hopefully it all will crash by then.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 59 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I want to just buy games and have them work on my machine. So a console.

Microsoft is surrendering the console war.

Sony has already put malware in their products and I will not be their customer again.

Nintendo is super locked down.

Valve has always shown me excellent customer service.

[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nintendo has made it better to buy a fucking steam deck and pirate their games. I think the steam deck and the GabeCube will splash the market with better performance than other consoles, better use cases and usability, and therefore make other companies make there consoles better.

As a Nintendo fan, Nintendo is like all of our toxic boyfriends. But if Nintendo either a) licensed their games to other devices or b) allowed there devices to run linux/pc games I would step (a lil bit) back on the Nintendo train.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I disagree on what it would take to bring me back to Nintendo, cause... I think its ok for them to make a fancy digital toy with games that change how we play with it.

But I want the fancy digital toy to be worth it first and be fun.
Like the DS was a planner and a doodle pad, and a contact book, and a web browser and a gameboy and a DS. They had a version that let me see games in 3D. They had a console that let me swing swords like the main character in the game that came out just for it. I could play any sport like I was actually doing it right away day 1 and design a character to play as.

Now the console does nothing but play the games that dont come with it. And they dont even use a fun game mechanic they added to make the digital toy cool. They lost all passion and it is just a worse locked down version that only plays the game and goes away. Made to have you purchase more on it then use it.
I miss Nintendo.

[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago

You are actually right, I didn't think about Nintendo's past when making that comment but I would appreciate if Nintendo stopped competing with others in the market and did its own thing to a higher extent. I mean the switch 2 is straight up the steam deck but without only Nintendo games.

It doesn't even matter if it's linux or otherwise, as long as they are innovating in the gaming area.

[–] Buffy@libretechni.ca 7 points 3 days ago

This. I am wishfully thinking that even if it doesn't hit the ground running at launch, over time enough people will convert for it to be a commercial success. The only thing that could make me put another console in my home is my desire for physical media, but even then half of the games released are just glorified download cards. Truthfully there is almost 0 reason for an informed consumer to purchase a console now.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 67 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The use case is it's going to introduce gamers to Linux. And it's going to prove that in PCs, just like consoles, you don't need Microsoft to game.

[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm not a Linux person, but Microsoft, big corpos and oligopolies generally, are really starting to irritate me. I am looking at more and more ways to get them the fuck outta my life.

And maybe Linux is the way for tech stuff.

I’m not a Linux evangelist, but I will say that after an initial “what on earth is this” period of learning the basics and doing some distro-hopping, I’ve found that I really like Linux. It can meet all my needs, it’s a comfortable daily driver, and I have no desire to go back to Windows.

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[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 days ago

I mean yes, jack of all trades master of none. But then again a mass produced hardware which will run all modern AAA games (Meaning cheaper), running on Linux (Linux being used mainstream in a user friendly sense is better than not Linux) and still being user friendly is overall a company doing something I like, and adding competition to the console marketplace.

I bought Helldivers and BG3 on PS4 for in total like $150 and I sold my PS5 and now I can't even play those games anymore. With it being linked to a steam account, this isn't a problem anymore they can access there paid games on any device, which I like.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Seems like a pretty consistent niche to me. People that want to get away from consoles but aren't good with Linux/pc and want something that just works. I wouldn't buy one for myself but I'd consider getting one for my nephew if he wanted to switch from his PlayStation. Anything that takes a bite out of Microsoft's market share is a plus as far as I'm concerned.

[–] kynzo@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Well what if i want something like a console but hate the big tech and dont enjoy someone spying on me? this is the only option. What if i want a console that i can modify and use as a pc or a server if i damn want to? this is the only option. What if i want a true console like experience but want to play a title that just isnt on any consoles? this once again is the only option. This thing will have so many usecases, just maybe a little specific ones.. :D

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Other than "not seeing the use case" I think the meme is right on. People hate Windows but don't want to deal with Linux, people hate being trapped in the walled gardens of Microsoft or Sony consoles, but don't want to deal with a full-on gaming PC. Kinda like how when iPads came out people where like, this is worse than a phone and worse than a laptop, who are these things even for?

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The GabeCube could hit the market at $1000 and still be a major success. Think about the RAM prices and there‘s not really a way to build yourself a cheaper PC that‘s convenient for couch gaming.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As someone who’s tried several PC-in-the-livingroom solutions, just try building a PC with good specs at that size and you’ll appreciate the niche that is being filled.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Smug basher: "But it's not stronger than my galaxy GPU 89,000 that costs four times as much! It can't even do 14k octovision and 122 fps dynaflax!"

[–] bastion@feddit.nl 6 points 3 days ago

Oh geez, no dynaflax?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Arch with KDE is for people who don’t like Linux?

[–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, people who like Linux want to spend hours of their life debugging why the Bluetooth service starts up just fine but then crashes the computer when it tries to suspend. People who like arch would prefer if the Bluetooth service didn't even start correctly, ideally Bluetooth requires a manual kernel module install every time it starts which they fixed with a personal script they got from a random GitHub gist which they got to autorun using a systemd module.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe you weren’t aware, but SteamOS is Arch based and uses the KDE Plasma desktop.

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[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Got my hands on a steam deck. First thing was installing bazzite.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Price!

We can argue about it all we want, but basically everything hinges on its street price.

If it's cheap, all those critiques are irrelevant.

Expensive? "It's cute, I like Steam, I like how it mostly works OOTB," gets real niche, real quick.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I downvote all these memes because they want to shit over a product that isn't released yet with no price tag, all so they can feel smug superiority

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[–] essell@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Regardless of the box cost, there's no arguing with the price of games in a Steam sale!

I don't think I've paid more than £15 for a game in years and years.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 12 points 3 days ago (5 children)

People always argue about the price of the machine, but hardly anyone mentions that console people pay to play online. Which is something i can't even really comprehend

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[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 22 points 4 days ago

EZ

I'm interested in the Steam Machine because I like playing on consoles. Steam's ecosystem seems interesting because it's more open than PlayStation's (what I'm on currently). Additionally, I like Linux. By using SteamOS, I'm hoping bug fixes and improvements will benefit the general Linux ecosystem. I don't want to install games on my regular computers. I want a dedicated gaming device. I don't intend to use the Steam Machine as a PC.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 days ago

It’s a pretty nice custom designed PC that is guaranteed to work well with Linux. The only downside, really, is that you can’t upgrade it beyond storage and RAM.

[–] gointhefridge@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago

I just like that I can play PC games on my TV, know that I have hardware that games are built to work on, and not have to get up to turn it on.

That last one is the biggest one honestly.

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