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In particular, arrest because of race or language spoken is now allowed

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 87 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Open endorsement of racism by SCOTUS wasn't actually on my bingo card. Thought they would be more subtle.

Also, when did SCOTUS decide to throw out a massive number of decisions without deliberation? Are they really that in favor of a Trump dictatorship?

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 45 points 9 months ago (3 children)

when did SCOTUS decide to throw out a massive number of decisions without deliberation?

When their only job became clearing the way for the trump admin. This shadow docket shit is becoming a real problem for lower courts too because SC keeps ruling without elaborating their decisions. Its difficult to find judgement in line with this precedence without understanding how they're reaching these conclusions.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Apparently they got tired of making shit up like during their last session.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 24 points 9 months ago

They don't have to justify their decisions. They've gone full authoritarian and are aggressively, flagrantly arbitrary. "Because we said so and you can't stop us" is their only reason. Fucking pigs.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

Thankfully some of the lower courts are wising up to this shit. The thing about shadow dockets is they aren't actual rulings. They provide no legal guidance. So what some courts are doing is only applying them to the exact specific question they ruled on. If a party in the case submits a plea worded slightly differently than the one SCOTUS ruled on, the lower courts are perfectly free to ignore the SCOTUS shadow dockets ruling. Only actual written briefs carry any kind of weight of precedent.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 months ago

A problem with decisions that are only made to kiss Trump's ass is that it's hard to fabricate even a weak chain of reasoning to support them.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In favor or fearful of ....

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 16 points 9 months ago

They wouldn't have anything to fear if they weren't enabling it to happen.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seems like Constitutional protections are meaningless if you look or sound Latino.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

they’ve been meaningless since day 1; right away there needed to be “amendments” for instance. and depending on who is in power, more amendments come and go…

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Amendments aren't tied to presidents though. They are tied to 2/3rds votes of representatives (or a bunch of states demanding a convention and then passing one without it being able to be blocked)

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think what they are saying is that depending on who is president, amendments can be temporarily interpreted by the Supreme Court to not exist at all

Yeah these judges seem to be straying pretty far from past rulings, but it seems to be a recent problem. It seemed rare for the supreme Court to hear something they had already made precedent on before until the last decade, but maybe that's just because I've paid more attention the last 10 years

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

true but they are tied to “regimes” on the whole combined with an ever moving Overton Window…

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It seems to be going (has gone) that way. The stand out Amendment there might be the 22nd. Where Republicans majority voted to put 2 term limits on the presidency when it was a sitting Democrat. (Granted it was promoted by FDR I believe once he got his 4 election wins)

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

I've had burritos more supreme than this court

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Family guy skin chart meme just became legal, apparently

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Skin chart's canon irl

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Supposedly the rule they were going with was four pieces of "evidence" for detainment: 1. Race, 2. Language/Accent, 3. Location, 4. Occupation; and the lower court said that's not enough evidence (although for whatever reason seemed ok with racial discrimination being used with the rest?). They put a hold on ICE doing this, and the SCOTUS blocked the hold, but didn't technically rule on the procedure itself (yet, anyway).

Still not good news, just clarifying based on what I heard on an NPR interview earlier. ICE isn't even following the procedure laid out, as far as I can tell (picking people off the streets lacks location or occupation) and they've partially ignored the court ruling anyway. For instance, there's very clear laws that officials must identify themselves for citizens (with a few exceptions), and you can legally call the police on them if they don't. Obviously that rule has been largely ignored.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They had sharply reduced random detainments in California, in part due to the injunction. A lot of people are going to be needlessly jailed because of this.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I mean it's basically Stop and Frisk, like they had in NY. It's just much worse because they don't even release you immediately. It also always sucks to be profiled by appearance.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 9 months ago

"Duh... This is America you're guilty until proven innocent! What do you mean gaslighting? Of course it's gas, we don't use electric here like some commie scum!"

[–] don@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

Don’t forget about the conservative minorities who want this and voted for it to happen. This isn’t a strictly Caucasians-only problem.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Roving patrols" coming to a city near you

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They didn't wait long to start

The number of reported arrests is relatively few, but immigrant rights advocates said the operation appears to mark a shift in ICE tactics. Before this operation, local activists said, agents had been targeted in their tactics, presenting warrants at specific homes or detaining people at immigration court. Stopping people on the street in what appeared to be a fairly random fashion is new, they said.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago

Ah que la chingada!