There is still no gender or age that supports AI
this post was submitted on 19 Dec 2025
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Of course the majority who do see it positively are around my age.
Half my generation are basically Boomer Lite.
the ai aspect needs to be for a reason
like the ai generation of No Man's Sky is great! there's like 8 types of things continually mixed around to create a universe that's always different even when all the structures and stations are basically the same
but in Starborn it's fucked and dumber than shit. the ai generation is pointless for creating empty planets that are full of the same stuff over and over
if Starborn would have directed the AI to create millions of different food wrappers and other trivial items, the game would have been more interesting. but Skyrim in space was a weak idea from the beginning
Video games have had AI for years. It's just that AI has meant something different back then. Nowadays, AI most of the time means LLM.
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Hmm. Is there a one-size-fits-all answer to this? I feel from an in-game perspective they maybe could deploy AI in clever ways. Like make NPCs a bit less scripted. Or a scifi spaceship computer feel more like like it. Or ramp up things like procedurally-generated worlds... And I mean the GPU runs at full blast anyway. If we talk about climate emissions from the gaming PC, we got to ask ourselves if Triple-A games are alright to play in the first place... Letting go of the designers and replacing the assets with AI-generated ones would be an unequivocally bad thing, though. And that's probably the thing they're going for?
Ai has been in games for decades. No, not llm Ai. Enemy movement is a classic case of Ai. Hell chess has been running on Ai for years depending on your platform(yes you can play against other people in most cases but most cases also have a play against Ai mode)
What did they mean by Ai in the question? Better question, what did the responders think they meant?
That's half of what I meant. I mean I'm old enough to remember the first Counter-Strike bots being stupid and getting stuck all the time. But AI in the broader definition is what allows us to have competitors in Mario Kart, NPCs in fantasy games. Play The Sims... They said generative AI in this article, so it's a bit unclear whether that's still in scope... But chess computers or Alpha Go might count. And procedurally generated worlds are "generative" by nature. And with them it's a bit unclear when that crosses into AI. Open-world games are kind of nice, though.
Yeah. That's a big problem in the current reality, what is "Ai" besides a sale term? Hell from the game dev world there has been a "generative Ai" for years which took "trees"(pre-made images and meshes) and allowed you to kinda "brush" a forest down which kinda looked normal as none of the trees were in straight lines or specific distances.
Thanks. I didn't know, I'm not much of a designer. Yeah, maybe I should stop asking for nuance and well-defined terms in these arguments. Seems EA games means firing designers, in-house playtesters... And overall reducing quality. Other people mean various different things with AI and they all use the same word for it and it needs to be a yes/no answer... I think I'll stick with my initial opinion and it's just more nuanced with games than with other things. And we can't just ask random people on the streets and expect them to know the fine lines between different implementations of AI. Some have been used for decades. Some are newer and just slightly different, yet qualify as generative. Some are very different. A good chunk probably outright bad and cost-cutting measures with the usual downsides of AI, it just depends on what exactly the studios do. And things like AlphaGo are more or less a scientific achievement. And we also want single player games to feel like the characters in them were alive.
The problem is everyone is claiming "generative Ai" because they think it will result in lower costs or higher sales. No one has a official definition, I would think generative Ai is llm, another comment stated it was only about creating images and firing artists.
It's a buzz word. It's like social network a few years ago. Does Facebook count as a social network? How about steam? OK, now what about world of warcraft? Discord? What's the difference between a social network and a old school forum? All let you make friends, talk with friends and enjoy each other's company. Could be argued AIM was a social network...
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