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[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 136 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was very "alpha" of them to get their asses kicked. I find it particularly interesting that Paul had his jaw bone shattered in this fight, but "won" against Mike Tyson. Something tells me that the Tyson fight was almost certainly rigged.

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is a real fight from the old days, Tyson is obviously holding back on Paul. There is no follow through so he won't hurt them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6WCLselSVU&list=PLJupYvBIzAGzXOSVlidABPMjrVAQ6OPGD&index=1

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

from the old days

That's the point. Those were the old days.

What Jake Paul does is he just challenges old retired fighters who are like either not trained in boxing or have been not boxing for years.

At, 58 Tyson was a whisper of the fighter he used to be. He now uses is a walking stick. He now spends more time podcasting than he does fighting. A Mike Tyson who had to cancel the initial bout due to a stomach ulcer. And this is the man who was sold to the public as a legitimate challenger to Paul. After a spirited first round, every second of Tyson's 40 years of damage can be seen etched into his movements; exhausted, he chases Paul around the ring. In the sixth round, he throws just seven punches, the fight ending in a unanimous landslide decision for Paul. The same accusations of a fixed fight flood the internet with people (whom I'm guessing have no experience boxing) interpreting moments like Mike Tyson not falling for obvious bait as proof of collusion. And then there's the script. But the only thing the script actually got right was the first round, which was just how Tyson always fights versus how Paul always fights. And it actually got the ending wrong - calling a Paul KO victory in round five but I guess people didn't read that far. The complaints of a fixed fight are so intense that an official statement is released declaring the fight not scripted, and in doing so perfectly priming the Jake Paul cycle to start all over again. But the thing is, if you know how the Jake Paul Cycle works this fight was easy to predict, as it's the same manipulation of public perception we've been talking about this entire video. And I can say that because I did predict it months before it happened on stream. What Jake Paul does is he just challenges old retired fighters who are like either not trained in boxing or have been not boxing four years.

People want to believe the fight was fixed because they don't like Jake Paul (valid) and because they don't want to admit that time comes for everyone (even legends like Tyson).

I think there's two reasons people so badly want to believe that this fight was fixed and the first is simple: people don't like Jake Paul. But the second is more complicated as I mentioned one of the things I really struggle to understand and make this video is how so many people judge the fight as hard to predict when, to me, there was only ever going to be one outcome. And I don't know that much about boxing and I think a part of that was Tyson's aura and the impact he'd had on the sport but I think there's also a deeper reason. Watching a decrepit aged Mike Tyson lose a boxing match to a social media influencer is about as devastating a statement you can make on the effect age has on our mortal frames. The most brutal reinforcement possible that the ultimate unbeatable and undisputed opponent we must all face one day is time. And that's not just hard to accept it's devastating and a big reason why I think so many people would rather engage in conspiracy. But sometimes there is no conspiracy. Sometimes things are just the way they are and it sucks.

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alternate take: I hope I look as good as Tyson when I'm 59 years old.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can see tyson pull his shot. Just look at the difference between a full hit and paul's match. It's easy to see that this wasn't age. It probably took more energy to pull the shot. Last comment.

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Great, this will be my last comment, too.

Many of these fixed fight accusations come from people with little to no experience boxing, but who will claim with so much unearned confidence how "obvious" it is.

It is possible that Tyson threw the match. I'll give that oxygen to people with the experience to know what they're talking about.

More importantly, these accusations fall into an even bigger trap: giving Jake Paul attention.

Jake Paul built up a string of wins against fighters who weren't boxers, boxers with inflated win/loss records, and boxers who have been retired for years.

Every claim that a fighter is "obviously" throwing against him fed the metrics. It creates hate watchers who want to see him get beat in the next fight. It tells the networks, this makes money.

If we had collectively recognized the trap, stopped shouting "rigged!" and signaling how much we wanted a next match, a "real" match, Jake Paul wouldn't have been able to ride the hate-hype train to a $100M+ payout for a broken jaw.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dunno' about everyone else, but calling him out on his BS has never once even remotely tempted me to watch his next match.

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[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 124 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Andrew Tate is not in jail? How?

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 153 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Yeah, I don't want to see Andrew Tate getting beat up. I want a future where I never see or hear about him again because he's serving a life sentence.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, I wouldn't mind watching him get his ass beat as long as he ended up in prison afterwards.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 1 month ago

BOTH THINGS CAN BE TRUE! - Elsbeth

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Short answer: The Trump administration protects sex traffickers. Didn't hurt to have a little assist from Don Jr. and Barron to grease the wheels, and a natural mutual interest in capturing the fascist youth influencer set.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/10/us/andrew-tate-barron-trump-romania.html

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 month ago

Trump put pressure on Romania to allow him to leave the country, after which the brothers moved to the US. I believe it was on the condition they would return for the trial. Don't know when that is planned and if they actually will return, doubt it tbh. Donnies promises are worth less than the toilet paper you used to wipe your post taco bell shit.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 62 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wasn't there an MMA fight scheduled between him and Mark Zuckerberg? Maybe he is M.A.C.O. ;-)

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 37 points 1 month ago

His mom said he has to go back inside.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

He pussied out of that one. As much as I dislike Zuck, he definitely trains in combat sports (I think Jiu Jitsu?) and Musk is just a fat loser with a big mouth. He would have lost easily.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (5 children)

No way, Musk is a martial arts master. The martial art of laying on your back and kicking up while screaming.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Andrew Tate is funny but fuck those two pics of Jake Paul are just great. He is cowering

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Andrew Tate can eat a bag of dicks.

[–] Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If he is still hungry after the pink boxing glove. 😂

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[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's hilarious that he wanted ppl to refer to him as a "professional boxer" when here he is visibly terrified of getting punched 🥊

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 27 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the face.

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[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (6 children)

They probably made way more money out if it than the guys who beat them.

The only way to actually beat people like these is to not give them exposure

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only way to actually beat people like these is to not give them exposure

Agreed, but I'm perfectly fine settling for this in the immediate sense. It might actually hasten the better option as they will not be alpha enough for their fanatics.

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[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Wait tate got beaten up? As much as I like that I kind of assumed he was in jail. Might have gotten him confused with some other PoS tho

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As much as he deserves to be in jail, he was recently in the US getting special treatment from the Trump admin to keep him out of jail: https://www.propublica.org/article/andrew-tate-investigation-dhs-paul-ingrassia

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Pedofascists protect pedofascists

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I also though he was in jail, and now I am deceived he is making bank and enjoying being out.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At the very least we can be happy with the fact that he got the shit beaten out of him I suppose

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

And it should help reduce his fanbase as he is not the "alpha" they thought he was.

[–] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 43 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I love the fear in Jake Pauls eyes in the first picture

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[–] art@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (6 children)

2 Nazi's getting punched. Good times.

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tate will almost certainly choose not to believe he lost and that he is still a big manly man.

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Also it's a woman's fault somehow

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Tate looked so bad that I think I'd have a 60% chance of beating him in a boxing match, and I'm a fat sedentary 40-something who hasn't thrown a punch since high school.

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[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 32 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Me for the last 30 minutes...

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 15 points 1 month ago

And with a pink glove.

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