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this post was submitted on 22 Dec 2025
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Wouldn't be remotely shocked to find ties to Russian funding of this initiative. They pulled this same shit in Europe for decades, fanning the flames of discontent, pitting people against each other and trying to divide us.
If they want to become Americans so bad, they can always move South and apply for citizenship.
What they can't do, is take the land with them.
Way, WAY South into an already deeply red state where they can't do any more damage to our painfully dying country, please.
I was curious about how this will pan out, and found this:
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2025/11/05/Has-Alberta-Separatism-Gone-Mainstream-Common-Ground/
About 30 per cent of Albertans support or somewhat support the idea of separation, while most do not. This figure fluctuates but hasn’t changed substantially since 2019.
The conclusion from our research is clear: the typical Albertan doesn’t want to separate but gets why others do. Supporting separatism isn’t mainstream, though being curious about it is. The bridge between those viewpoints is not a long one.
That is a terrifyingly high number if you ask me.
You can get a quarter of the population to vote for basically anything.
Thank god that first-past-the-post could give 39% or less full control of the provincial government.
The number goes down below 10 when asked if they'd want to separate if the Conservatives had won the federal election. They're just angy at the libs. When push comes to shove they will vote it down.
I've posted about this before, but I've been out with coworkers for a beer before and had the exact conversation on the "rest of Canada not caring" point about O&G jobs in Alberta. I'm originally from Ontario so I could chime in on that perspective for them.
The conversation was mostly geared towards them thinking the Albertan economy is "floating" the rest of Canada. When I brought up the size of Toronto and Montreal and the industries just in those two cities they brushed it off. So I took a different tactic, I started asking them if they cared about manufacturing jobs in Quebec, or fishery jobs in the maritimes or automotive jobs in Ontario. Unsurprisingly they said they didn't know / care and that those jobs weren't as numerous / important as O&G.
I ended it with saying, people care about Alberta as much as you care about Ontario, Quebec, BC, the Maritimes which is essentially zilch. I'm not sure if I got through to them but one guy actually said "somehow this seems worse". I just said "really Alberta doesn't register in most Canadians radars unless negatively".
They also genuinely couldn't understand why folks out east or in BC don't want pipelines or further O&G investment in their provinces.
Referendums and the specific topic is a bit different. But I think looking at Trump and America should make people very wary of what having 30% of the population as fanatics can do.
I'm kind of in favor of throwing every one of the traitors over the southern border by the seat of their useless pants.
As an Albertan, I would do the same - but charge them for the ride.
Please no. Those of us that aren't right wing shit stains are doing everything they can to reign in the MAGA bullshit here in the USA. We don't need more MAGA trash. How about putting them on a rocket to mars?
But throw them in Alaska, no where near a road or border town
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So dumb.
There is no independant state. The choice is be part of Canada or be part of the US, and I'm not sure what in Trump's record make people think he would treat Canadians any better than Russia treats Ukranians
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Do it. And then when it gets, at most, 30% of the vote you'll have shot your wad and no one will give a shit about it for another generation. At least with Québec it'll be closer to 50%.
They don't get the land. All they get are plane tickets.
I'm sure the Albertans are aware how well this sort of thing turned out for the UK, right?
...Albertans are aware...
I am astounded! Alberta is already trying to dumb down their population, as the USA did. Alberta is trying to privatize health care, as the USA. Seriously?? This is what you want?
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It's pretty blatant a bunch of this is being funded by US fossil fuel giants to get access to the tar sands.
All paid for by the USA
Which in turn is paid for by Russia
And we still allow it all to happen
Yay brexit!
But without the diversified economy.. Or their own currency.. Or warm water ports.. Or any water ports..
Before everyone gets their knickers in a twist, no, the referendum question has not been approved. The application has been approved. Now they have to collect the necessary signatures. What has collected the necessary signatures and been validated by Elections Alberta is the opposite motion, "Do you agree that Alberta should remain in Canada?" By law, this has to go either to a vote in the Legislature (which is extremely unlikely) or a referendum within six months. Many people believe the UCP willl call an election rather than a referendum, as all referendum questions die when an election is called.
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