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[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 76 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I prefer Kegels exercises over Hegels dialectics

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What about Hegel exercises or Kegel dialectics though?

[–] HonorableScythe@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Aren't Kegel dialectics just queefing?

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[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 weeks ago

I prefer bagels

[–] rescue_toaster@lemmy.zip 69 points 4 weeks ago (19 children)

I've been on Lemmy for over a year, where I learned that there's some difference between liberals and leftists, though what those are, I don't know.  I also had never heard the term tankie before Lemmy.  I've never cared to look any of these terms up though.  Probably makes me one of them... 

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 61 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

There is a simple test to determine if you're a tankie, specifically.

  1. Did Tiananmen Square happen? Specifically, was it bloody, consented/orchestrated by the CCP leadership, and resulted in the deaths of unarmed civilian protesters?

  2. Was it wrong that it happened?

If both answers are yes, you're not a tankie. You believe that oppressive regimes are evil regardless of which side of the political spectrum it spawns from.

Bonus points if you think Stalin was anything but benevolent. If you think his methods were "tough, but firm," then you're a tankie.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 68 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 41 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oxygen tank, helium tank, water tank, slurry tank,...

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't forget sensory deprivation tanks! Oh and nitrous oxide tanks (my personal favorite). You probably shouldn't combine those. Or maybe do, I'm not your dad.

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[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 41 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

In 1700s Europe the people in power were the nobility (the descendants of feudal aristocrats) and the clergy (the church). Their claim to power (legitimacy) was that God willed it, and also they had the biggest army ("ultima ratio regum").

Liberalism arose from "enlightenment thought" and basically said that all humans are equal, therefore state legitimacy comes from the consent of the people, and therefore there should be a set of laws that guarantees everyone's rights and gives everyone a say in how society should be run. Some subjects (such as religion) belong to a "private sphere" that the state has no say in and is therefore beyond politics. State power should be minimal and tightly regulated through mechanisms such as the bill of rights or the separation of powers. This ideology was the foundation of the US independence and the French revolution. The political thinkers most emblematic of it are John Locke and Montesquieu.

The people who gained most from erasing the special place in society of the nobility and the clergy ("abolishing the privileges") were people who were rich but not part of these organisations, that is to say merchants and industrialists. Leftism was born out of the "social question" : everyone having the same rights is cool but the richer in society clearly benefit more while the poorer are unable to make use of these "rights" (for instance having the right to a trial does you no good if you can't afford a lawyer ; or being allowed vacation days is pointless if you can't afford to stop working). It is somewhat at odds with liberalism, because solving the social question might require to break some rules of liberalism (most notably state non-intervention, private property, and separation of powers). The most emblematic political thinker here is Karl Marx.

Some leftists theorized the state should be violently overthrown in order to install themselves as dictators and therefore solve the social question by directly redistributing wealth to the poorest. The most important of these is Lenin, who took over the government of Russia in 1917, turning it into the Soviet Union. However he soon died and passed power to Stalin, who cemented his dictatorship and took over a number of countries through military force. When some of these countries (most notably Hungary in 1956) tried to rebel, the Soviet government sent in their army. Thus "tankie" is an insult ― it means one who excuses the brutality of the Soviet government, or more generally the usage of force by a leftist power. It mostly means the same as "stalinist".

Meanwhile, in the US people were divided on how much state power was acceptable to use. The democratic party used state power to fix the economy during the great depression (Roosevelt), then fight racism during the civil rights era (Johnson) ; today a part of society aligned with the democratic party wishes to use state power to fight sexism and other social issues, therefore being closer to the leftist view. The word "liberal" in US parlance came to mean those people, who today call themselves progressives, and the "liberals" I referred to earlier are sometimes referred to as "classical liberals" in order to avoid confusion.

I hope this clears things up

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (8 children)

I wish I would have had someone like you as a history teacher in school. Back then we got a very brief and basic "here are the definitions of socialism/communism. These may sound good, but that's just because you're young, they're actually bad. We're not discussing why, or going into specifics." I'm not sure the discussion even goes that far today in US schools, as most teachers like having a job.

Of course my gut reaction to this as a teen was to launch into my own "semi-tankie" anti-west, anti-imperialist phase. After a few swings back into liberalism, I eventually found a comfortable (if idealistic) ideological home somewhere between socialist democracy and social anarchism, but it was a long, bumpy, and confusing road there.

It seems quite a few on this site never made it past that angsty adolescent phase. They'll tell you "tankies" is an insult, or a slur even, but I'm not exactly worried about hurting someone's feelings with that when they openly call for authoritarianism and even support ethnic cleansing and genocides, as long as they're done by countries or groups that have their approval.

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[–] pieland@piefed.social 31 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

a liberal is probably your average usa democrat that is considered conservative by european standards

a leftist is anyone that democrat might consider too radical (like bernie sanders who, for a lot of leftists, might just barely be considered leftist)

edit: i’m being downvoted - am i wrong? i was under the impression that this was the difference between a liberal and a leftist

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

didn't downvotes you, but broadly speaking the way liberal gets used by Marxists/anarchists, it's referring to the people who still think we should have/reform capitalism. social Democrats are the left wing of that.

'leftist' is bit of a squishy term because it doesn't actually distinguish people's position on the political economy

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[–] JayTreeman@fedia.io 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Liberal is an actual ideology. A hallmark of liberal thought is that business can do things better than government. Leftist thought starts at capitalism is bad, and is much deeper than you think. Democrats of all types are liberal. The kicker is so are the Republicans. It's one reason that Republicans are able to push the Democrats to do anything they want. They don't fundamentally disagree on things.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

the problem with left and right is that there is more than one dimension they're being used in. for instance see the political compass.

also the most basic definition of liberal is unregulated. it doesn't necessarily mean just economic. could be drug use or gun posession etc.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Liberal is used differently in different places, which causes a lot of the confusion. Kind of like how conservative sometimes means resistant to change and sometimes means regressive depending on who has adopted the label.

The oversimplified pattern that I see for a linear political spectrum, which is too simplified to be accurate when one gets into the weeds but easier to explain conceptually is:

Leftist -- Liberal -- Centrist -- Conservative -- Far Right

In the US liberals are called leftists by the conservatives who are actually the far right because our overall spectrum is shifted pretty far to the right. Centrists aren't really in the middle as much as they are trying to appease both sides. Again, this is very oversimplified but when you hear that liberals aren't really leftists they are basically saying that liberals are not nearly as far left as they claim to be.

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[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 weeks ago

If you were a tankie you'd open your comment with a 7 paragraph on why you're not a tankie, followed by a dissertation that would make a HD2 autocannon proud by deflecting so much

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 9 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

I came here for funny memes and shitposts. Now I've got to answer for choosing the wrong instance because apparently it is run by tank enthusiasts who we all hate for reasons I don't understand.

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 52 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (18 children)

I kinda feel like Lemmy has been much more hostile recently. I don’t know if it’s bots or if I just post bad comments, but it makes me want to go back to just being a lurker.

EDIT: I was waiting for it to happen in this thread. Try to be positive and say something nice about the angry people, get downvotes. Haha. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The world sucks right now. People on Lemmy are very aware of what's going on and are rightfully upset and that reflects in general sentiment and interactions.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah. I get it. I feel that way too. Especially, if you fall into a minority group, it’s a scary time to be.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

It's not just you. People will wilfully misinterpret what I'm saying to their liking, sometimes accusing me of nonsense. Some others will jump in out of nowhere as if I owe them money. I have some asshole in my notifications right now trying to defend another asshole for some reason. The best part is how I'm the one getting downvoted for defending myself and calling them out on it.

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[–] Devconsole@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 weeks ago (24 children)

As a relative newcomer, I've felt and read a lot of hostility on Lemmy. Reddit felt smug, but not unfriendly.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 12 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Well I'm a delight, but I've been too busy to comment much lately. Sorry everyone!

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[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

it's probably just getting more popular

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[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 45 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Missing the guy that uses Arch BTW.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 25 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

laughs in NixOS

Nix users are to Arch users what Arch users are to everyone else. We tend to be very loud about it.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Poor arch people. NixOS has a more passionate cult and gentoo is harder to install and FreeBSD is more rarely seen in the wild. The price of AUR

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[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

Actually, here is what you guys don't understand about Hegels dialectics:

>No u.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 30 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

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Disinformation only hinders the cycle. Misinformation if offered in good faith can cause hiccups but perseverance can overcome those and aid all involved.

Argumentation in bad faith helps nobody - it's purely emotional vomit.

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[–] trk@aussie.zone 23 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Yeah that's the suck thing about Reddit, all those removed posts. Good thing that doesn't happen here on Lemmy Utopia....

Oh, wait

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

And then there's some other guy talking about Lennox

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The HVAC system you choose for your home is a big decision.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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