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Still investigating cause of death, but it appears to be some sort of puncture wound in the neck region
What was the theory before? Crime of passion, gun and run?
Like he just had a "say what again" moment to that bullshit Kirk was saying on stage?
“Let me just clean my rifle on the roof of this school building, what could go… OH FUCK!”
Like MSNBC saying it could have been one of his supporters celebrating
What if the gunman was Kirk's estranged gay lover? That's my theory
The blood shooting from Mr. Kirks neck alone was not good enough evidence to determine if the shooter hit what he was targeting. Great work FBI. At this rate, you'll soon be able to confirm the shooter used a gun.
His neck just did that.
TBF the laws in the USA are wack enough that the weapon might not fall under the definition of deadly weapon and therefore firearms related crime.
Better still:
Mr Kirk was on his "Prove me Wrong" tour.
And the assassin chose to prove Mr Kirk wrong in a way words couldn't.
However - If spending money can legally be protected as "free speech" in the US, then what other actions could be considered "free speech" and therefore is protected under the first amendment?
If Mr Kirk was openly asking to be proven wrong, then couldn't the assassins bullet be protected under free speech as a clear (but violent) answer to that question?
As a friend I'm saying it's time to drop out of law school.
Like, duh. In other news: water is wet.
Do you mean to say it wasn't a random bullet?
I never would have reached that conclusion on my own, thank you FBI, you are truly the world's greatest detectives. Thinking outside the box!
His neck actually just did that by itself
No it took an entire spevial effects team.
I feel like there are parts of the country where it does need to be clarified. Utah may be one of them. 😉
What a relief that they "secured" those nearby trees.
Oh? Like maybe the hate finally needed to break free of his hotdog skin?
I don't think he was shot, I think his neck just did that
It did not in fact do that ay all. Special effects. Crisis actor.
"Grunthos was reported to have been "disappointed" by the poem's reception, and was about to embark on a reading of his 12-book epic entitled "My Favourite Bathtime Gurgles" when his own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save humanity, leapt straight up through his neck and throttled his brain. " --Douglas Adams HHGTTG
A truck backfired at the same time.
The bullshit could no longer be contained.
Now Trump is going to send the army to guard the streets of buttfuck nowhere Utah from all this violence, right? Right?
Oh don't worry, they'll institute police checkpoints everywhere across the country for "safety" and "national security". Worked great for Ireland!
Come to think of it I really need my brakes checked and my pool cleaned.
Everyone knows the shooter was from Chicago, so this still counts as Chicago crime
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Can we stark calling the shooter Mario? I wish he had a better escape plan like a janitor outfit and beard
Next up: FBI confirms a firearm was used in the shooting.
BREAKING: FBI Increasingly Suspects Murder As Cause of Death in Kirk Shooting
Of course he was targeted. The shooter is likely dead by now. They probably called it Operation Watch Charlie or something.
He was killed as a distraction.
Tinfoil hat time: Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery, which has a very high mortality rating. This wasn't a lucky shot, this was well aimed. If you look at the tape, it doesn't look like someone in the crowd had a gun, no one in the crowd was reacting before the shot occurred, and no one saw a gun pulled. In the crowd full of people, how to you avoid everyone else and make a kill shot like that? I legit believe this was a shot taken from far away and the person that took the shot had the ability to make a sniper shot like that, (some form of police/military training.) Then, before he's been officially pronounced dead, Trump posts "The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!" Trump wrote on his social media platform. If he hadn't officially been declared dead, why was Trump saying that Charlie Kirk was dead before it was official. Next Trump is blaming the left with no proof. I'm calling it, Trump had Kirk assassinated as a false flag operation, and this will be trump's reischtag fire. Buckle up. Edit: NYT is saying the shot came from a roof via a high power bolt action rifle, because the gun was found in the woods near the campus. Authorities also claim to have video footage of the suspect going to the roof of a campus building.
Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery,
There are two carotid arteries. Based on the footage, it looks to me like only his left carotid artery got hit. It would make sense because bullets make a way bigger hole when exiting than they do when entering.
I don't think anyone, no matter how skilled they are, would be aiming to do that. It's way more likely to be a failed headshot or shot to the torso.
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You don’t think that maybe trump just doesn’t wait for a news article to be posted? Maybe he got a call and since he’s incessantly posting tweets he did it before an editor could approve the news article change? There’s a lot more simple explanations.
Yes, this is also highly likely, which is why I started my post with "tin foil hat time." Even if that's the case, even if the govt had 0 involvement in his death, I still think this incident will be used as a means for trump to further solidify power.
There is video of a person dressed in black skedaddling back over the rooftop, clearly the shooter. No sane shooter is aiming for the neck, hell no. Pretty sure it was a chest shot that tumbled around his ribcage and exited his neck. Weird shit happens when a teeny projectile hits meat and bone at 3,400FPS.
The shooting spot was about 250 yards away. That's WWII sniping range, but not particularly far for modern precision rifles. According to Ryan Cleckner (US Army Ranger sniper), precision marksman training in the Army makes you use iron sights out to 600 yards. A good setup these days can hit a dinner plate (read: a human head) at 1000 yards, and that's not even pushing it.
They didn't have to hit him the neck. They just needed to hit the general head area. They got lucky hitting the artery dead on, but any head hit has a very high probability of death.
There are millions of bench rest shooters with a bolt action rifle who could make that shot.
If you have a regular 30.06 bullet with a rifle sighted in at 200 yards, it will hit around 5" lower than you aim at 250 yards depending on the gun and conditions.
If you have it sighted in at 300 yards and aim for center mass (heart) the bullet will hit around 5" above where they are aiming.
In both conditions the bullet hits the neck area.
Also, I don't know if people train for downward sloped shots. He may have over/under corrected.
Not usually in my experience. Almost all target shooting is on relatively flat ranges. Especially not for ranges that short.
For those that don't know, when firing down the slope the effect of gravity decreases the bullets velocity loss. So the bullet transverses the distance in less time and drops less over a given distance.
When firing up a slope the bullet loses velocity due to gravity. So it drops more due to the extra time it takes for the bullet to transverse the distance.
No, that was random gang violence. Charly tried to sell crack on the wrong turf.