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[–] ravelin@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

It's amazing to me how easy it is to tell what's bullshit, and yet It'S sO hArD tO tElL wHaT's ReAl ThEsE dAyS

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

Take this fucking lie down

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 53 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

What's the Source: ?

I wanna share it with others who still believe it's true

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 39 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

On September 11, 2025, The Wall Street Journal issued a caution regarding its earlier report on an internal law-enforcement bulletin concerning the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. The bulletin had mentioned ammunition found near the scene with “transgender and anti-fascist ideology” engravings, but the Justice Department indicated the report might not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition as the probe was in its early stages.

This is statement from the WSJ

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

They're walking back a claim that was so stupid that it could only be made up by a conspiracy theory idiot.

Yet they made it. Too notch US journalism here people

Now they're somewhat walking it back but that doesn't matter, that walking back part will be ignored, the damage has been done

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So they walked back their own claim, good good good.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 hours ago

Make it, rile up the right, then admit later (quietly) that they were wrong. Corporate media standard.

[–] AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Probably the person making the more believable claim.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 49 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The backpedaling on the WSJ's lie has begun:

On September 11, 2025, The Wall Street Journal issued a caution regarding its earlier report on an internal law-enforcement bulletin concerning the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. The bulletin had mentioned ammunition found near the scene with "transgender and anti-fascist ideology" engravings, but the Justice Department indicated the report might not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition as the probe was in its early stages.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 hours ago

might not accurately reflect

I love newspeak

[–] potato_wallrus@lemmy.world 36 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Homie wrote an entire manifesto on a 30-06 shell

[–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago

It's actually the epstein files, that's why they didn't publish what the casings said

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Lol first thing someone does when they go to assassinate someone is to engrave the rifle they hope no one ever finds...

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No, he wlleft the rifle on purpose. Easier to just throw away especially if the killer unknown to police. Back in the day mobsters would just leave the gun after a hit.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 hours ago

They always took the fucking cannoli though.

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah wasn't this shit also pulled with Luigi?

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago

he was caught days later with an entire manifesto and also evidence placing him at the scene in his backpack, how convenient! :)

[–] interdimensional_sharts@lemmy.world 31 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I would love to hear what they mean by “transgender ideology” lmfao

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 hour ago

I'm not kidding, apparently one of the bullets read "if you can read this, you are gay lmfao"

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

that usually means acknowledging that trans people exist and are the gender they say they are

scary stuff /s

[–] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

that's some impressive engraving skills

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

Aint nobody gonna engrave a bullet casing with anything outside of manufacturing environment. Anyone with that capability isnt doing it for free either

[–] philosloppy@lemmy.world 129 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

"transgender ideology" is not a thing. That's the type of shit transphobes pull out of their ass when they're trying to attack trans folks

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I can see something engraved like "uwu" be interpreted that way by MSM.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 hours ago

I always thought uwu was more of a furry thing, right?

Imagine knowing your nazi hero was shot by a fucking furry lmao

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine dying to a bullet with uwu on it

[–] pipes@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago

worse ways to go (• ω •)

[–] philosloppy@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

...I kinda hope that's exactly what was engraved.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 15 minutes ago

so disappointed it wasn't the "notices bulges OwO what's this" bullet that got him

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 58 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I think transgender ideology is "we're human".

It's fucking wild that the Right can be opposed to human rights and anti-fascism and millions of people are somehow still gaslit in believing they're the good guys.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

It's this exact point for me. "Antifascist" is being taken at face value and simultaneously being tarred as antisocial rhetoric. What the actual fuck has gone on? If the belief that "antifascist" is a cover or a dogwhistle, then shouldn't you attempt to separate their political orientation away from those words? "They aren't antifascist. They are political dissidents claiming all of their political enemies are 'fascists'."

Instead, we have: "No, they ARE antifascists and they are our enemies!" Why did we let them stigmatize the word "antifascist"?

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 hours ago

Because the next step is to get people to see Fascism as a positive, much like Kirk wanted us to see Empathy as a negative

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 47 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Engraved on ammunition. We're at biblical levels of made up bullshit.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It was an inside job by a professional. There were two guys doing umpire signals to his immediate right. King pedo Karen just wants an excuse to declare martial law

[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 166 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

Transgender ideology? Did they write UWU on the bullet?

[–] Radikole@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

They literally did apparently

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 85 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Linux kernel source code was engraved in the bullet

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 43 points 17 hours ago

"I run Arch btw"

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 39 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well, we got images of the primary suspect today, so I'm guessing we'll get more pics soon.

Here's what I think we know so far:

I'm guessing the perp isn't a student there, otherwise they would've been able to get a name from school records.

I guess we'll see how close I am, but in the meantime, I hope these sources are of interest to others.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Guesswork on the caliber based on 'sound' is entirely unuseful- silencers exist and acoustics are mysterious at the best times. Edit: since they apparently found the rifle, the chambering should be listed- guesswork is now totally obsolete.

And concerning engraving bullets: that would supremely fuck with the ballistics. You could engrave the case if you felt so inclined, I guess...

Nobody carves bullets, but most people would consider the casing part of the bullet. Journalists are often imprecise, especially with things they're not familiar with.

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