I'm against political violence but as Kirk would say about a raped woman that was wearing a short skirt "what did he expect?"
Dude literally died for what he believed in. We should be happy for him.
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Dude literally died for what he believed in. We should be happy for him.
More than that, it's "worth it to have the cost" of everyone owning guns, so that we can have some fascist pricks die every so often.
I don't agree with the political violence (unless you're fighting back against it) but everyone in America that isn't a maga cult member should look at investing in more guns and gun handling training.
I'm paraphrasing his quote on gun violence.
In a way, he's right -- this death? Worth it. Totally. I just wish it didn't come at the cost of many schoolchildren and other innocents before (and after) him.
So then, how do you reduce? Very simple. People say, oh, Charlie, how do you stop school shootings? I don't know. How did we stop shootings at baseball games? Because we have armed guards outside of baseball games. That's why. How did we stop all the shootings at airports? We have armed guards outside of airports. How do we stop all the shootings at banks? We have armed guards outside of banks. How did we stop all the shootings at gun shows?
Turns out those police officers and security couldn't keep Charlie Kirk alive.
On the other hand, in a sick and twisted way, this all does lend credence to the whole "good guy with a gun" idea. you can't tell me that microphone in his hand isn't a weapon, and you sure as shit can't tell me Charlie Kirk was a good guy.
In other words, this was justifiable self-defense, that sniper protected those college kids from a cognitohazard.
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Work for the world you want to live in, prepare for the world you already live in.
I didn't expect this shit to happen in my life time (a phrase uttered by many, no doubt) but here we are.
Yeah, we ain't even rock bottom yet...
Like, it's past recommending "guns".
Everybody should legit be getting ARs/AKs and plated vests these days.
It doesn't take a lot of range time to get competent. Both platforms are very simple.
Besides, empathy isn't real, its more of a new age belief. Luigi can be the patron saint of the righteous hand of justice. Charlie can be the patron saint of the self righteous receiver of justice
It's gonna get a whole lot worse before things get better, but they'll be remembered as some of the first, yes.
personally I'm of the opinion that society goes in cycles, generally, if you know history. We're either about to have civil war or mass revolt, I'm pretty sure -- when the circuses are still going but there is no bread, for millions, and it's only getting worse -- that's generally when shit gets real. Massive, massive oversimplification, mind you; but more and more people in the US are feeling the economic squeeze that republicans (and by extension also, late-stage capitalism) pile on more every year.
In other words, we're in the opening paragraphs to a very long chapter in some high schooler's history class on this period of American history in the future -- probably also lumped into an economics class with the 1929 stock market crash and the consequences thereof. How it will be written about I shudder to imagine, but you'll have a lot of "patron saints of fucking around/finding out/delivering unto thee the finding out".
He meant school children, not himself.
The time for being "against political violence" as a general concept is long passed.
One side has violence against anyone but themselves as their only policy. Fascism doesn't surrender to reasoned argument, law or elections.
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Every thread I see a new shit take from this dude. It’s like a nesting doll of poo.
Man really left a garbage legacy.
Charlie Kirk was political the same way the Ku Klux Klan is political.
He was a walking advertisement for allowing hate to flow through people. Like I said: what did he expect?
Believed gun deaths were a good thing, didn't believe in empathy. My joy that he's gone is right in line with his beliefs!
A win win for everyone
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Nazis should be shot.
Many people should be shot, especially Kirk, especially Trump, especially many other shitty evil people.
fascists need to be shot
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Was never elected nor held office so never a politician, just a hate monger.
he was a propagandist
I haven’t been this elated since Luigi.
We need more good news like this more frequently
I think it's entirely possible to simultaneously be horrified by his murder, feel deep sympathy for his family, and be glad he's no longer in the world.
Right there with you. His wife I don't worry too much about, she knew what she was getting but his kids didn't choose this.
But growing up without him puts his kids at an advantage.
There's was almost no chance these kids could grow up to be decent people with a paternal figure who believed black people are inferior, that women should submit to their husbands and that gun rights trump safety, particularly the safety of children.
Doesnt justify murder by any means. I believe all people are capable of reform. Unfortunately capitalism was creating a positive feedback loop so that the more regressive ideas he spewed, the more views he got and the greater his wealth would grow. Making reform unlikely but its always possible.
Ultimately his kids may have a chance of growing up to see all people as equal now, because I doubt their father would have accepted that from them.
I’m glad he’s dead, I feel legitimate joy from the act.
I feel happy for his family. They're free now
Right there with ya. Truly sucks for him and the family but I’m glad he isn’t spreading his hateful, racist, misogynist shit anymore. It’s a shame he didn’t stop earlier.
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He was a propagandist.
Most politics is propagandist as it works to suggest we shouldn't lead ourselves, but need representatives, and that we need to support and work for the gamified tokens (money) of the nation.
I love how they titled the article as a direct retort to the NYC’s fucking idiotic platforming of a fascist sympathizer.
It's impossible to be against violence and say anything good about that two bit hateful grifter.
That is perfectly the point. I am against violence and Kirk was a piece of shit who we should feel free to condemn for the harm he was causing right up to his last moments.
Klein's fawning whitewashing of Kirk's dishonest tactics is, if we are being exceptionally charitable, naïve.
Kirk was a radical right-wing extremist. Groomed though he may have been (well, that hair was terrible), he just spewed hate speech.
A few hours before this article was published Jason Koebler at 404 Media published something remarkably similar:
https://www.404media.co/charlie-kirk-was-not-practicing-politics-the-right-way/
It's riffing off an article Ezra Klein wrote with the headline "Kirk was practicing politics the right way". Klein wrote this because his brain is full of cheese.
Ezra Klein sucks. Has always sucked, will always suck.
He's so confusing. Sometimes he'll say something and I'll think he's based, but most of the time it's awful.
It certainly isn't consistent, that's for sure.
Fuck, where's the byline? I get if they are afraid to publish under their real name but gimmie more from this author, I want to see if I agree with them in other articles.
Weird, I see the byline as David Corn, their Washington, D.C. Bureau Chief.
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