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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 84 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I never thought I'd see a POTUS consider denaturalising US citizens as well so you'd hope they won't draft you but I wouldn't discount it. Cannon fodder is always necessary especially if you're not white or MAGA.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This scene was always hilarious because we thought it could never happen… But given everything that this administration has done so far, it seems more like a prediction…

https://youtu.be/AQnEBSwdAXw

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thought it could never happen? That sort of shit happened several times in past wars.

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[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At least my death after I'm drafted in the wars over oil will raise the share price of the Military-Industrial Complex shareholders, bless them 🙏🙏🙏

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

RTX and General Dynamics thank you for your service. 🙏

[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I’ll kill half a dozen cops or MP’s or die trying if they try to forcibly deploy me before I do a single goddamn thing for Trumps Military.

If somehow I’m deployed against my wishes my first action is to make a white flag out of my underwear, surrender to whoever they deploy me against, and share as much intelligence as I have (probably 0 but who cares).

This isn’t some power fantasy by the way, I don’t want to hurt anyone.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As a european, chances are if my country is being invaded, it's either by Russia og USA. If I'm gonna have to defend my country it will absolutely not be through the military. Conventional warfare against a greater foe is just a really good way of getting killed.

Either civil disobediance or terrorist attacks like the IRA is more my style.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We have assessed your current situation and are pleased to inform you we have created a project for people with skills like yourself.

Welcome to operation meat shield where we'll cash in those 30 years of contributions and pensions to keep the markets going I up and the boomers from having to face consequences.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

What if they need drone operators? Our fat 40 year old asses have been playing games since the late 80s, and those skills are finally in demand.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 44 points 2 weeks ago

And they'll use a bunch of teens straight out of high-school that still have youthful reaction times instead.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Sorry bro, they just going to import a bunch of Korean esport pros and make us all look like slobs.

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 weeks ago

The issue is that many of us are also concerned about the others who would or at least could be drafted. Our children. The younger adults we've taken under our wings and built friendships with. It's hardly any comfort knowing that I would never be drafted. Granted, I don't think there's a good chance of anybody getting drafted in my lifetime, but stupider shit has already happened, so there you go.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Remember that when a dictator runs out of qualified people, they'll draft anyone who has a pulse to keep things going.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Americans are not unhealthy due to lack of affordable healthcare. They are unhealthy due to the availability of cheap, heavily processed, high calorie foods.

[–] cyberfae@piefed.social 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's multiple factors. There is the cheap, ultra processed foods, but also when a doctor tells you to lose weight, they're likely to tell you to go on a diet and exercise, but without giving advice on what types of diet and exercise are most helpful. Even if they do refer you to a nutritionist, insurance likely won't cover it. Add misinformation and a culture of blaming people for their bad health to that mix and you end up with a recipe for disaster.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Spoiler alert, any exercise is helpful.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

You underestimate the amount of non-weight-related health problems there are.

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, not really, in the grand scheme of things it's mainly being fat and unhealthy, as well as cancer. By a long shot. 

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And both heart and cancer illnesses are exacerbated by being obese.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Wishful thinking, in the Serbian- Croatian war they were drafting 60 year olds. Russia has dropped any medical exemptions.

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[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

The motivation for most new recruits in the US military is escaping poverty. That poverty is on purpose to funnel recruits into the military. Unlikely to ever be a draft again, they'll just ramp up the poverty.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

Also why leadershit is pissing their pants over declining fertility rates.

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[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)
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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I have a bone spur in my foot, can I also dodge a draft?

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

When Nazi Germany decided to declare war on the whole world, their leaders remarked that some of the fighters they were forced to use were "old meat" and "green vegetables". (So-called "casserole" units.)

It's one thing to think you're invincible and quite another to commit acts of state-sponsored terrorism and war in the belief that you're untouchable, but if there's anyone in the world who seems willing to find the breaking point, it appears to be Donald.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

No one thinks there would be a draft. But 40 isn't a cut off, nor would weight excuse you. The U.S. military has enough members to fight in 10 Vietnams at once.

(Also war has changed, so maybe 100 Vietnams at once)

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

The U.S. military has enough members to fight in 10 Vietnams at once.

And loose 10 Vietnams at once.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Im not talking about weight but okay its w/e

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[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago

We should all just plead for having bone spurs.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The average age of a Ukrainian soldier in 2023 was 45, and probably hasn't improved. And I also expect there are plenty of men in their 50s and 60s in various roles.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Millennials spent our time terrified of a draft 10-20 years ago. Gen Z, welcome to the "anti war for my own self preservation" club, we [millennials] really did try to keep you out of it

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[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

"Next thing you know you've got Uncle Sam's ass askin'
To join the army or what you'll do for their Navy
You just a baby
Gettin' recruited at eighteen
You're on a plane now
Eating their food and their baked beans
I'm 28
They gonna take you 'fore they take me"

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

A lot of us elder millennials are scared for our kids. I’d rather go in his place . If it comes to that

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

NGL, I had to legitimately tell myself this the other day. I spent most of my formative years as a young adult worried that the neverending war in the middle east would escalate and I would be drafted. I was not alone in this fear either, most of my peers had plans to flee the country if Bush called for conscription.

It never did end up happening, probably because the war was deeply unpopular after it was clear that the invasion was just a pretense for regime change and not at all related to 9/11 or WMDs.

I think the mental trauma from that never healed, and now I'm pushing 40 and still thinking every new "war" we start will have the MPs knocking at my door to serve me my mustering papers.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Gun nut wannabe operators are like our primary domestic product. Decades of defense propaganda in TV, movies, and games has guaranteed no shortage of willing idiots with expendable bodies who have already foregone their humanity for the fantasy of headshotting the men and raping the women. America will rip apart at the seams before it ever sees another general draft.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Still gets drafted...

...After the administration takes away healthcare for service people.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

War is how the rich kill off the poor.

General strike is the only solution.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know what I'm thinking, I applaud that the Gen Z are into fitness and wellness. But they are influenced by the right through social media, and the right are probably conditioning kids so that they will be fit for a future war. It sounds conspiratorial, but the Heritage Foundation is already dictating social policies in America and beyond. Steve Bannon is their dark missionary by evangelising abroad and wanting the EU to fragment.

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[–] smeg@infosec.pub 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Now I have to worry about my son being drafted.

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[–] astro@leminal.space 6 points 2 weeks ago

It may soon be time to bring back the American military tradition of "fragging"

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 6 points 2 weeks ago

Still fit for duty, operation meat shield go!

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

The dr. Phil's are out in full force here 🤣

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