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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago

Best we can do is make everything more gas dependent by canceling windmill projects.

[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

um doesn't this already exist in Europe and Japan?

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

Idk what the other dude is talking about. It definitely exists some places.

Source: live in Copenhagen, don't own a car.

[–] Amberskin@europe.pub 5 points 1 week ago

Yes.

Barcelona resident here. I pay 22€ for an unlimited month transit pass (that’s a discounted price that will probably go up). I can ride any underground, bus or commuter train inside the metropolitan area. I own a car to go outside the urban zone but I barely use it.

When I have to use my car in town (because I’m going to buy something that cannot be carried easily otherwise) I recall how much driving in the city sucks.

I’m actually thinking about sellling my car and using a rental service if I want to take a road trip.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Things exist only theoretically if they're outside the only real country, the US.

[–] Wander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No. Not really.

Cars are very common and walkable cities have been largely accommodated for the car.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Live in Stockholm, don't have a car, can get around fine. Still want a car, but not for the city.

[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I went a year without driving in America ; its aweful

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't know how anyone survives there without one.

[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that makes sense bc I did die

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

nah they just sent me hospital bills instead

[–] Wander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

55% of trips in Sweden are cars. I'd call that the default.

Sweden is a huge country, I drove 6 hours down to Malmö recently, and lots of people live on the outskirts where train and bus services are slower and more spotty. But if you live in the cities here, you don't need a car.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

my dads idea: Ban cars inside cities have giant parking houses around the cities public transport - free - that comes by every 5-10 minutes

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

I live in the Seattle area and while this stuff isn't free it's under $10 to park and ride both ways. Trains run every 7 minutes and the train will take you maybe five minutes extra if there's no traffic. If you're coming or going from the stadiums it's faster and cheaper than driving to one of the lots close to them. Trains are pretty clean too, it's a pretty great rail line

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

This one is actually a pretty good idea. Eventually we get rid of the parking garages too and cover everything with railways.

[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

5-10 minutes is forever in some places

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

5 minutes and small delays would mean that some busses are a few seconds apart

[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago
[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We haven't banned cars, but my city did put a park-and-ride lot at each end of its one BRT line. It's pretty great, now the haters get to complain that BRT is a failure because nobody rides it, AND that it's useless because those lots are always full.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

"Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded" - Yogi Bera

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Look up Pontevedra in spain.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

Portland's pretty good about this. The whole city is laid out in a pretty uniform grid, and the busses and trains come frequently and cover a really wide area. Getting around the city is a piece of cake, and the transit pass works the exact same regardless of which vehicle type you ride.

It's not perfect, but it's pretty damn close!

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Sorry, best we can do in the U.S. is fuck all.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want a teleportation device that either gets me to my destination instantly or deletes me from existence.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

A catapult on every rooftop!

[–] Pirtatogna@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

While I agree in principle with the OP, I feel I must point out that that wouldn't completely make cars unnecessary. There are still remote or sparsely populated areas (a lot actually in my country) where comprehensive public transport is impractical or next to impossible. I'd say we have use for both. Especially so if self driving means being able to summon a car when you need one without needing to own one. Or would that actually count as public transport then...?

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, you're never gonna live without trucks and vans either, you need those for the last few kilometres of the logistics chain. Still, we should reduce the remaining cars by half at least, and I'm saying that sitting in a train that goes so frequently that I don't have to check a schedule.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, well said. I agree with you on that, sometimes cars are still needed

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

comprehensive public transport is impractical or next to impossible

That's how we used to do transit before cars were invented. The US had a railway line to even the most remote farms. USSR had amazing railways that interconnected almost everything despite being the biggest country on earth by a wide margin.

Generally the trick is to build densely populated walkable towns where you don't need a car for daily activities, and connect them with railways. In that case, it doesn't matter what the overall population density is.

Even for sparsely populated land, if you can build an asphalt road wider than 2 lanes, chances are you can also build a small commuter railway there eventually. It would also be cheaper overall, if you consider externalities like everyone having to own a car, car crashes being a lot more common than rail crashes, and of course CO₂ emissions and the climate change that comes along with them. And that's besides the socioeconomic benefits of letting everyone have a way to travel, rather than only those with financial means to maintain a car and the ability to drive.

Cars are sometimes necessary, but it's like 1% of what they are used for currently.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

This post isn't shit. Where is my refund?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Don't say "cars as default", say "built around people, not cars"

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want people to keep some communities light hearted

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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

So, London basically?

[–] eletes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Saw this yesterday, instead of Atlanta building a new airport that could take away Delta's dominance, the CEO suggests vertibirds for shuttling people to the airport. This totally ignores the fact that the public transit MARTA goes directly to the airport

[–] unnamed1@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

You’re not thinking car-first. You need neuralink to fix that. /s

[–] Wander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think self driving cars will help tbh. Only way it will happen.

Less parking. Solves last mile problem.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How will that help? By some studies, about 30% of traffic on downtown city streets is drivers circulating looking for street parking. With self-driving cars, they could cause congestion by circulating all day instead of parking.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've seen stuff about sharing them so there's less cars parked and people just get dropped off and it takes the next person. But taxis already exist and haven't solved the problem so I don't think self driving cars are the answer there.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago

From the passenger's perspective, a taxi and a self-driving car are functionally identical. But back when Uber, Lyft, and the rest were offering cheap rides subsidized by VC money, all that happened was that they made traffic congestion slightly, but measurably, worse. People didn't give up private cars in large numbers, though.

If we get self-driving cars, then people's private cars can add to the problem by cruising around empty most of the time, and if they're not in them, there's nobody to be bothered by traffic delays. The only way to achieve the dream of eliminating gridlock would be to ban private cars. And if that were politically feasible, why not just do it now with transit?

[–] Wander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

If you get the train downtown then you are already downtown. You don't need a self driving car at all. You need a way to get from your house to the train station by self driving car.

Or you have a lot more demand responsive transport. Everyone gets on a mini bus in the suburbs and you all get dropped off at the stores or locations you want one by one.

[–] calisti@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] evening_push579@feddit.nu 2 points 1 week ago

The Russian version of it though

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

i've never heard a young person Say this before!!!! I should write this down. /s (Fixed)

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Come back and proofread what you wrote and fix it so it's intelligible.

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