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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Dont worry nvidia will give them a billion so they can pay nvida a billion for more gpu's. Its the circle of grift.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

jensen needs a shinier jacket. he even had gates come out the woodwork recently too.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds more like money laundering.

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[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 82 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I worked with AI daily as a programmer and let me tell you something people aren't talking about.

People are myopic about the way they are looking at this whole data centre rush. Its not about speeding up ChatGPT or anything so prosaic. What they are doing is building the compute infrastructure to integrate AI into everything.

So what people need to realise is AI != ChatGPT. There are a plethora of different "AI"s that aren't LLMs. And a lot of those non-LLMs are VERRRRY good at what they do.

They want to deploy a horde of AIs and apply them to all data sets, real-time or stored. They'll have AIs watching you drive, and fining you, they'll have marketing designed at warp speed tailored to fuck with you specifically. Recording conversations on the street and processing and aggregating them. They'll start to tie together government DBs and use AIs to mine them for information.

They are automating control and power and im not seeing it talked about anywhere. They haven't even begun their fuckery yet.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 25 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'd like to add that this doesn't even necessarily have to be intentional.

I'm certain the current bubble will pop sooner rather than later, but by that point (and today already as well), all the infrastructure, the data centers etc. will already have been built.

And they will not just disappear.

Some might be scavenged for parts to be sold off, but far more likely, I unfortunately think, is that governments will (be lobbied to) step in, and prevent the loss of hardware, of companies, and especially of jobs. They obviously won't start the money-burning, consumer-facing ChatGPTs & Co again, so what else can we do with all that hardware that's sitting there, looking for a purpose?

Exactly the thing the person above me said. Implement the surveillance state at an unprecedented scale and speed, because those GPUs need SOMETHING to do, lest all that capital be wasted.

There will be a bailout, and we'll all suffer for it.

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Social scores too. On all the video, on streets, in buildings, of every word captured, every web page visited, comment made. Half baked ai from the worst people like thiel will be giving social credit scores to secretly affect your job prospects, police and courts and government treatment, down to what results search engines show you, or prices that will flash for you specifically in digital price tags or online.

Europe is doing this now too, under age controls, and chat control and preventing child abuse, by child abuse they really mean preventing dissent on israel first and foremost, but everythinf else too. Their politicians are surrendering their populations to tech for a cut of the info. All while a far right is tbe only real reform choice, making them inevitable and then too the dissolution if the eu, and fixung of elections. All because bs like this, and the cynical far right will just retool it for themselves make no mistake.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 54 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 129 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Eighteen months? They have that much lifeline? Wow.

“This is wework on steroids”

The entire industry is wework, not just OpenAI.

[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 23 points 5 days ago

I know eighteen hours is a little of of reach. Can it be eighteen days instead?

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 111 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The thing is, OpenAI have been 18 months from running out of money since this bullshit all kicked off. Unfortunately, investors keep throwing piles of money at them.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 69 points 5 days ago

Just one more datacenter bro! We get AGI bro! At this point it's a massive sunken cost fallacy I'm afraid.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

this is how rich these people are. let's not even talk about how a company that has money to buy entire datacenters for a year is "running out".

what a fucking scam capitalism is.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A detail that I think needs to be clarified there; OpenAI doesn't actually have the money for those datacentres. What they're doing is convincing other people to spend money building datacentres, by promising that any day now they'll have so many people paying to use their services that of course they'll need more compute capacity than is currently on the entire planet just for their business alone, yeah, just trust me bro, it's a sure fire bet, you can't lose.

And in turn, those investors are signing these big "letters of intent" that say "Yes, absolutely, we are building 100 billion dollars of compute, and don't worry about the fact that right now all we're doing is spending $10million on buying some land and doing a few feasibility studies because it definitely absolutely will be 100 billion very soon and that will make ten trillion in profit and we'll break the universe with how rich we are."

And then US government goes "Here is 10 billion in tax breaks just for saying you will do this thing, you get to keep it even if you never actually spend any money."

And then all the shareholders have a mass collective orgasm and money just spews out of their wallets.

It's scams on scams on scams the whole way down. The whole thing is just juicing share prices.

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago

If we could cause a mass wave of subscription cancellations we could finish them off. I know no on here is subscribing to them but if you know anyone else who is urge them to cancel their ChatGPT/OpenAI subscriptions. If you have the chance to provide feedback for why you canceled be sure to mention you're unhappy OpenAI donated $25 million to Trump and unhappy about the ads.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] hector@lemmy.today 22 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You say that then the government will bail them out and the fed will be induced to underwrite their bonds, and or buy them in monetary easing, or like situations.

Not for nothing either, the admin would extract concessions and payouts ffom opeai for it.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago

You're almost certainly spot on, I was just trying to be optimistic.

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[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 73 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

1 like = 1 dollar removed from OpenAI

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[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 58 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

OpenAI will likely burn eventually, but all the other big players won't. Google, Microslop, Amazon, those will all be fine.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

Maybe all those circular investments they did causes a domino effect of some kind. Time will tell, I guess.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (15 children)

OpenAI has been the weakest financial link for a while. Once it falls though... the whole thing implodes.

Its difficult to know what it'll look like on the "other side" of the bubble popping. It'll be very bad though. Maybe afterward we'll be able to heal. Better be ready to fight... or hunker down.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

OpenAI all of a sudden

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago

I am at the edge of my seat in anticipation!

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

If there was a such thing as a free market it would go bankrupt….unfortunately we have facist idiots at the helm so I’m sure they’ll bail it out by cutting the last shred of medicade or scrapping school lunches for the poor

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 11 points 4 days ago

Please please please let this be true, pleaseeee.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

The sooner, the better.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Does that mean the bubble is about to pop?

[–] masinko@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

They will spend tons of money to convince lawmakers they're too big to fail, then somehow get a tax subsidized dollar bailout or funding.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago

Burst, you damn bubble. Burst!

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 33 points 5 days ago

Was that supposed to make me care? wish they ran out of money sooner.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 days ago
[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Onward the Butlerian Jihad!

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yeah, the military money is not enough, time to put ads into the conversation

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 14 hours ago

that seems to be the case, even thiel is quite alarmed, he dumped AI stocks, and trying to peddle palintir as much to trump and other countries as much as possible. hes trying to get wider adoption with US military and the LEO of the country. plus many red-light camera companies are liklely using AI already

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 21 points 5 days ago

Couldn't have happened to a better company! Hopefully, OpenAI does run out of money and because they've done fuck all with gassed up LLMs this failure will be a Dark Sign on a Hollowed Tech Corpse, showing that this is a futile venture. AI cannot be real, because they never put any real effort into it as in figured out what human consciousness actually is, invested countless years+cash into building an artificial brain that functioned like a human one for example. Or even better, ways to power and cool these data centers without threatening the world with ecological disaster. Also, not threatening the livelihoods of people in general and actively stealing their data.

This bid for so called "AI" was just a get rich scheme that was never going to fulfill any of the hype or overpromising that Big Tech hope posting fuckwits and other shills promoted.

I honestly wouldn't mind AI, if it lead to a Post Scarcity society like Star Trek. However, a bunch of Corporate Ghouls could never be trusted to steer humanity in that direction.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Well shoot, will my AI doorbell and AI toothbrush still work?

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